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The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:48 am
by Garath the Shadowshifter
Well I finally did it. Took me many years to track down and watch the missing seasons, but I finally got to do just that.

Sailor Moon had a rocky start with me. So it's funny how this all ends.

Long ago a local TV station near my house use to play random cartoons and other shows. The station was called C43 and let me enjoy such great shows like Mighty Max, and Ronin Warriors. I first came upon it when a random episode of Ronin Warriors was playing. To which I became an instant fan. I watched it till it ended and restarted, giving me a chance to catch all the episodes I had missed.

But then one day Ronin Warriors was replaced by Sailor Moon. A show obviously aimed at girls. I was outraged. Pissed that this girly show had taken the place of my belovid Ronin Warriors. I refused to watch even one episode.

Fast forward a year or two later, and the USA Network was playing it's 'Cartoon Express' in which I would catch (or record) to get such great shows like Gargoyles and another chance at seeing Mighty Max. Well somewhere in between these they'd play Sailor Moon.

Knowing it was silly to hate it just because it took the place of Ronin Warriors, and that it wasn't taking the place of anything in this block. (Well that and I was a bit curious) I decided to let an episode be recorded and watch it for myself.

I laughed at the sillyness of it all. I can't really remember which episode I started with (only that at one point the road get torn up) but I couldn't believe the rediculasness of the name Tuxedo Mask. (which I first thought was Tuxedo Man)

But hey, it was entertaining silly, so I continued to record and watch it.

I still don't know when it began to happen. But as time went by, I began to look forward to Sailor Moon. The story was something that grabbed me almost instantly. The characters were so well played that I couldn't help but see them as real people. Everything about the show began to truly appeal to me. Tuxedo Mask stopped sounding silly and became needed. I'd never be able to see him named anything else, or be any different then he was.

It was the same for every character. They were they way they were because it just felt right. Time moved on for them, and with it they grew.

The show started my first ever crush. That of Sailor Mercury aka Amy Mizuno (who oddly enough I found out MUCH later shares my birthday.) Even though I felt stupid to have a crush on an animated person who obviously wasn't real. There was no stopping it.

I also began to feel a strong connection with Serena aka Sailor Moon herself. I didn't like her in a romantic sense, or even a crush. I just liked her. Everything about her. Her flaws were part of her charm, and I'd not have her be any other way.

In time the show began to awaken something in me. Weither it was hope, or belief in myself. It made me grow along with it. I found myself loving the show more then any other anime I'd ever seen, or have seen to this day.

Serena was someone I respected and looked up to. No matter her flaws, she had a heart of gold, and no matter what crisis she faced, she'd always have the will to come out strong in the end. I was truely inspired by her.

I know I became obsessive with the show at some point. Knowing things about it that your casual fan never would. I've sought out and found all I can about Sailor Moon. I despertly waited for the next episode of the series. Getting pissed that I could never find past a certain point in the Sailor Moon R season.

Course later I found out it was because the USA never got the last few episodes. Not untill Toonami showed them. I recall at the time I had no cable where I was staying, so I FORCED a friend to record the episodes for me so I could finally complete the season.

For the longest time that was all I had. I discovered about the final three seasons, but watching them seemed hopeless. DiC had never dubbed them and it wasn't possible they ever would.

But since Sailor Moon had been so popular on Toonami, I had hope, and it paid off. Sailor Moon S, and Sailor Moon SuperS finally made their way to the airwaves. Dubbed by cloverway, this allowed me to continue the saga of Serena and her friends.

Though the cloverway dub took away one of the things that made me fall so madly in love with the show. I still remained a fan, and could still feel the warm feeling the show had awakened in me, ever since I had first found it.

The change if you are wondering, was the music. DiC had redone the music to most of the show, giving it a much different feel then the Japanese music did. Though most people preffer their anime uncut and undubbed. With Sailor Moon, I'll always be a full dub supporter. For the DiC versions anyway. I love the music DiC gave the show. I still to this day think it fist the series better then the Japanese music ever will.

I of course also felt bad about the voices being changed. The characters just didn't sound the way I had enjoyed them to. But it couldn't be helped. That's what happens when a new company dubs something.

Unfortantly for me Sailor Moon S was the last season I ever saw. Shortly after it's run I lost cable again and was never able to get it back for any of Sailor Moon SuperS.

My only other Sailor Moon fix after that was from the movies, which were a bigger surpise then I'd have thought.

Though thinking back, I believe the movies came BEFORE Sailor Moon S was dubbed, it was still just what I had wanted from Sailor Moon. The orginal voices, the orginal music DiC had given it. Everything was just as I remembered, and though R (The movie) was a little shaky (I've chalked it up to the VA's getting use to the roles again) and SuperS (the movie) Just wasn't all 'that' great. Sailor Moon S the Movie remains my second favorite movie of all time. I really doubt that'll ever change.

The years went by, and while I still loved Sailor Moon. That was all I was able to see. At one point I got about half of Sailor Stars fansubbed on VHS (borrowed from someone in an anime club I was in for a short time. He only had half of the series then nothing else) But it was a nice little treat. I was kinda glad I didn't get to finish it at the time, being I had to skip SuperS.

Well about four or so months ago, a friend of mine got a DVD set of SuperS from a friend and let me borrow it. The cloverway dub soon began to play on my TV, and the missing season of Sailor Moon was finally complted by me. All that was left was Sailor Stars.

I had all of it via fansub and the internet for a while, but a friend gave me DVDs to watch (most likely these are malasian cut together DVDs, made to sell for a quick buck, but they work...) So I had the final season of Sailor Moon all ready for me.

Well I hesitated for a few weeks, getting ready for other stuff, but I fnally sat down this week to watch it all. (Including the episodes I had seen already, because it was 2000/2001 when I last watched Stars. I remembered little)

Tonight at 12:30pm almost excatly I finished watching the FINAL episode of Sailor Moon ever.

Well... I feel sad.

Back when I was still trying to find the last two seasons (or more of the season of SuperS as I had Stars) I always knew that more Sailor Moon awaited me. It wasn't over for me yet.

But now it is.

There is no more Sailor Moon. Nor will their ever be again. I'll never be able to see Serena and the gang again unless it's via the past through repeating what I've already seen.

I know they are just cartoon characters. Trust me I do. But they had become so much more to me at some point. I just can't believe I'll never meet them again.

Of course those who have REALLY talked to me know of my secret with Sailor Moon.

So obsessed did I once become with the show, that I despertly wished I was part of it. But not just to find myself in the world. I had created an entire history of myself to fit in.

I wanted to be Serena's brother. I wanted it -BAD- Even to the point as to recall a dream I had so long ago, that I may have forced myself to believe that it had Sailor Moon in it.

The dream for those I've never told: [It dealt with me being at school (back in elementary. I was like first grade, maybe second) I remember looking out my classroom window, and instead of seeing the row of houses that were suppose to be right by my school, I saw a large place of ruins. The building looked to be of roman design with the broken white pilars and everything. Much like what was on the moon kingdom for those who've seen them. I remember a women calling to me from these ruins. So of course I ran to find her. She came to me from the darkness of the inside. I don't recall really what she looked like, but she had a very warm glow. My mind wishs me to remember her as Queen Serenity aka Serena's Moon Kingdom mother. But I'm not sure if she really did, or as stated, I made the memory become that way.

I do know what happened next however: She told me that she had been searching for me for a long time. That there was someone who had wanted to meet me for a long time. She told me that I had a sister. One who I had lost long ago. She took me into another room and inside that room was a small girl with blond hair. She was looking up into a crack in the cealing. Her hands and arms against her chest in a prayer. The light from the clealing rained down upon her, causing her to shine brillantly. Now my memory is a bit fuzzy here too. While I'm sure her hair wasn't in the style Serena always wears hers in, I think she was dressed in white. Possibly even the Moon Kingdom Dress Serena wears.]

I recall nothing else of the dream. But if it's true that it was Sailor Moon and Queen Serenity in that dream. Then I had the dream a good many years before Sailor Moon was even BROUGHT to america. Not only that but a good few years before there even WAS an anime. Possibly even manga. There is no chance I saw anything of Sailor Moon before that dream. So to this day I wish I could see it clearly, because it baffles me.

It however, lead me to the creation of my story. It changed many times over the years, and probably still will.

Thanks to MSF, a large part of it actually came to be, and I have to thank this place ever so much for helping in the creation of something that has had such a HUGE effect on my life to date.

Long ago, when Sakura still ruled the boards, she decided to have mods be called "Princess's" I'm sure most of you know this, or have been told of it before. Garath was at first known as an 'ArchDuke' being I still didn't care to pretend to be a girl when I really wasn't. But finally I ended up giving in, and Miyuko was born.

Miyuko in time became much more then just a false persona I'd take upon the MSF boards. She eventually became what I'd see myself as in the Sailor Moon universe.

Miyuko is the twin sister of Serena herself. (Not identical twins, fraternal twins) While Serena was to be Princess of the Moon and controll the Silver Millenium Crystal. Miyuko was the 'balance' to Serena. The Princess of the Dark Side of the Moon. She held the power of the Dark Millenium Crystal. A Crystal that while it shown brightly with dark light. It was in no way evil.

However, it was still more easily influanced by evil, and so when Queen Beryle with the power of the Negaverse, began to make plans to overthrow the moon. She orginally tried to get Miyuko on her side. Miyuko though could feel the darkness trying to take control, and so stole away with the Dark Millenium Crystal. Attempting to use it's power to free herself from the infecting evil, she ended up doing something else entirly. Being un-trained in the use of it's power, she lost control and caused her body to be destoried. Her soul to be resserected elsewhere along with her crystal.

The Queen (Serenity) Devistated by the loss of one of her daughters. Decided to seal away the memory of her from her subjects untill she may find a time reclaim her lost daughter. That and it was this event that tipped her off to the approcing danger that lead to Serena and Daren's dance. (I recall Serena being worried of the rumors of war or whatnot)

Unfortantly as we all know, the Silver Millenium was ended soon after. Miyuko being lost to the cosmos.

The way the story works is that the soul collided with a being known as a Shadowshifter, who had already taken on it's male form. The ShadowShifter being unable to deal with such a soul set to re-birth itself, was overwhelmed and became the new vessil for said soul. To explain more of this would require me to explain what ShadowShifters are, and that's not the topic of this thread.

It's been a long thread, and if you stuck around to read it all I'm truely gratefull.

While I know that Miyuko isn't real, I'm not going to become Serena's long lost sister, or even get to meet her as she's not a real person, and the Sailor Moon Universe is not a real place. I'll never be able to stop wishing. I still dont' know everything about Miyuko. I know she has a gaurdian cat, but gender and name still escape me to this day.

Though thanks to Sailor Stars, I FINALLY know what Miyuko transforms into: Silver Sailor Moon.

I've traveled with Sailor Moon to look forward to for a good portion of my life now. But from this day on, that ends.

It's going to feel a bit more lonely now that I have to walk this path without being able to look forward to more adventures with the girl I see as my sister.

Perhaps if I'm lucky. I'll enjoy a dream with her sometime. ^_^

Thanks for reading everyone. Sailor Moon remains as one of the biggest influances upon my life. I'm really sad to see it end, and yet glad I was able to be here when it did.

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:20 am
by Shadell
I've traveled with Sailor Moon to look forward to for a good portion of my life now. But from this day on, that ends.


So.... Have you seen the live action TV show version?

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:15 am
by Garath the Shadowshifter
Shadell wrote:
I've traveled with Sailor Moon to look forward to for a good portion of my life now. But from this day on, that ends.


So.... Have you seen the live action TV show version?


I think we can all agree that it's just not the same. ^^;

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:52 pm
by Mitera Nikkou
Well, you know what I know about what you know, but I'll say this anyway: you could have solved your problem sooner by reading the manga. ;p Or, at least I think that the manga is better; it's just not realistic to have a monster of the week. :lol:

But I know how it feels for something to end. That's how a lot of fan-fiction starts: because someone wants to continue where something left off.

I forget whether or not I've asked you this before, but have you read Sailor V?

I was once obsessive over Sailor Moon as well, back in the day. And Muzino Ami was my favorite, too. But these days I'm more loyal to the manga than I am the anime, by a great deal. It's not as funny but it feels more realistic.

I don't know if I've suggested this before, but wouldn't it make more sense for Miyuko to have a star seed of the moon instead of creating a whole new uber-powerful crystal? I mean, to begin with, the Ginzuishou isn't from the moon, but rather from another galaxy entirely. And it's already neutral, not good-inclined, since it merely grants the wishes of the heart. That's why the baddies were able to use its energy.

And again I wonder if you'd like the fan-fiction tale I've started, if I were ever able to finish it. It's funny since I made a Dark Side of the Moon senshi before I even met you. Perhaps even before you became Miyuko at MSF.

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:49 pm
by Garath the Shadowshifter
You seemed to have missed the point of this post Nikkou.

I actually have read a good chunck of the manga, and I frankly didn't think it lived up to the anime at all. I know it came first, but I liked the way the anime went better. The 'monster of the week' thing is easily just accepted. The manga is too quick paced. In the anime I get to spend every episode watching my favorite characters just be themselves. That's all I really want.

It's mainly the english dub that causes me to have such a strong reaction too. The subtitled stuff doesn't do it. Except for Sailor Stars, what I've seen subtitled usually annoys me. I want to hear them call her Serena darn it! >_<

I'm reminded that there IS one other Sailor Moon story out there, that I've unfortantly also already seen/done. The Sailor Moon: Another Story RPG for the super famicom is just plain awsome. Loved it to death, and wouldn't mind playing it again.
(Now if only I knew how to hack a rom and replace all the japanese scout names with the English Dub versions...)

I've not read Sailor V, though it would be neat to do so. If I'm not mistaken, there is a Sailor V ova of sorts out there that i need to track down. I also heard that is some hour long specail things out there, one for each scout. But I'm not really sure.

I know there are a few shorts, Like: Amy-Chan in Love, and a couple of others. One dealing with Rini and a vampire. Saw em once oh so long ago. Need to track em back down some day. (Well I have the Amy one...)

As for why a Dark Imperium Crystal, and not a star seed...

Well for one I can find nothing on this talk of it comming from another galaxy entirly.

For two, I know it can be used by either good guys, or bad guys. But really so can any other item. Let's say you have a sword of light, and a sword of darkness. While one would have traits of 'light' and the other traits of 'darkness' Neither item is good or evil. They are just tools. So it matters not who uses it, all that matters is how it's used.

Same with the crystals. The Dark Imperium Crystal can be used by the bad guys, but Miyuko obviously isn't bad. The way I see it is: Even though the Silver Imperium Crystal is generally good, someone can still use it for evil. The crystal though, since it's meant to be of 'light' properties, isn't as easily influanced by evil/darkness. But since the Dark Imperium crystal draws from darkness, which evil likes to associate itself with, the crystal was more easily influanced.

The idea behind the whole thing of two crystals, is that the Silver Crystal isn't complete. The Silver and Dark Imperium Crystals are part of the same crystal. They are suppose to come together to form a 'Yin-Yan' type of crystal. It's name and abilities I'm not yet aware of, but it's far easier to use and NOT loose your life force when it's like this, being BOTH Princess' of the moon would have to come together to properly use it.

When Miyuko dissapeared from the Silver Millenium, it actually disrupted the balance, which is why bad thing after bad thing kept seeming to happen around the earth.

This isn't as much an idea, as it is a feeling I got once.

In the end though, I only get the warm feelings when I watch the anime, and even then mostly ONLY the dub. The manga doesn't give me that feeling, and neither does the Live action series.

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:31 am
by Shadell
Have you seen the episodes that got cut from the American release?

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:55 am
by Garath the Shadowshifter
Have you seen the episodes that got cut from the American release?

Actually no. Guess that's something to look forward to.

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:59 am
by Mitera Nikkou
I didn't miss the point. I'm pretty sure one of the things that I said covers the fact that you've come a long way and reached the end of a series you wish had more material. Another part targets the journal-like quality of it. Yet another part was drawn to our similar experiences with the series. And is it so bad to add a comment based on what you've already shared with me? Other than that, I'm a stickler for canon, so what can I say? ;p

Anyway, if you prefer more character hijinks and less character development, that's fine: whatever rocks your cradle. I just prefer the manga because it's the basis for the anime, there's more character development, and the universe is developed much better. It's just a matter of taste. For instance, unlike you, I couldn't stand the dub's voice acting (well after the fact, anyway; but time and tide change things), moreso after the initial voice actors were replaced. I also prefer the Japanese names over the American because, despite looking Western, they're just not; I get enough American in America. But that's just me.

The only Sailor V that I'm aware of, is Sailor Victory; but it's another anime entirely.

As for the other galaxy: it's revealed by Queen Nehelenia, in a flashback. She and Queen Serenity came from another galaxy. The story arc revolving around the galaxy cauldron explains how star seeds work and, if the Ginzuishou were the star seed of the moon, then Queen Serenity wouldn't have had it. So she had to have brought it with her, from the other galaxy. Basically, what I'm saying is this: it's one thing for a fraternal twin to somehow be absent from the plot, but it's another thing for something as equal and unique as the Ginzuishou not being included. I'm just of the mind that, if you truly appreciate and respect a universe, you try to fit things into the canon, and make it as believable as possible. That's why I proposed a star seed: it's more believable and it is workable with the canon.

That aside, the other reason is because the Ginzuishou is neutral, and evolves with its user. And the reason why bad things keep happening is because the darkness is drawn to the light, and the Ginzuishou's capabilities, paired with the kind of people who have used it, certainly produces a lot of light.

It's fine to go with a feeling, if you want. It's just that you've personalized the series so much that I felt obligated to share some things. To you it may feel normal, right, but to most others, especially those who don't know you, it just seems like a self-insertion done to your whim. So I'm just all like, "Ahoy there, matey! This how the other side be seeing it as! Arr!"

Some things just need to happen because it's the proper thing to do. And do them, I do. :P

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:39 pm
by Garath the Shadowshifter
Well that's just what that little idea is Nikkou. A personal fantasy. You've noticed that I have no written fiction of this 'tale' That's because it's not meant to be shared with others. It's just a little thing I created because I'd really like to be part of the universe. I'll never be, that much is certain, but I like having my little dream. The fact I'm sharing it at all is a sign of how much I trust this community.

As for your explination of the silver cyrstal. That didn't happen in the anime. That's why I keep saying that you aren't really getting it. The manga and the anime are two seperate worlds to me. Not at ALL the same thing.

In the anime, Tuxedo Mask doesn't have the "Tuxedo the Smoking Bomber" attack, nor does Prince Diamond try to merge the silver cystal of the present and the future together.

Also there is no meantion of how Jedite, Nephlite, Zoacite, and Metalite use to be the personal assistants (or whatever) to Darien. (Mamoru)

Just like in the manga, Alan, Ann and the Doom Tree don't exist. Nor does any of the events of the three movies.

The anime timeline unfolds VERY differently then the manga one does, and while it may take a longer while for the characters to grow, it does happen.

In the anime, you'll have episodes that deal with one of the scouts, or someone close to the scouts. These episodes give a good deal of insight on how this character is. A good example is an episode from Sailor Moon SuperS where Amy finds a song on the internet, and ends up writing lyrics for it. The 'target' of the bad guys is the person who wrote the song, but the majority of the episode shows us a side of Amy you don't normally see.

You just don't GET that in the manga.

Going back to the silver cyrstal, it's never explained just how it came about in the anime. Least not from what I recall. So you see, I'm basing this all on the timeline and events of the anime. Whatever happened in the manga is pointless since frankly for the anime: It never happened.

The manga happened in its own little timeline, and if you like the manga. That's fine. But I'm on the anime side of things, and it works a bit differently over here.

I'm pretty much free to say what I want about the cyrstal's past. Since nothing in anime cannon can really say otherwise. So with that in mind, it being half of another cyrstal is fine. Yes in the manga things are different, but I'm not basing this on the manga.

After all, I can have Alan and Ann come back with some great evil from their side of the galaxy, causing some new adventure to happen, and it'd be just fine for the anime. Making lots of sense since hey, it could happen. But if you had them show up in the manga, warning flags would go off since they never had the first adventure as the Doom Tree never happened in that universe.

My heart lies with the anime storyline. Even MORE so, I go with the dub events first. Zoacite and Fish Eye are women to me. I know they are really guys in the japanese version, but that's not how it is in the dub, and that's how I'd preffer them.
(Though I do go with Uranes and Neptune being lovers instead of Cousans, but that's just because the whole 'cousan' thing is too rediculas even for me. That and I found out about them as lovers first anyway)

Sometimes you just have to do something for yourself, and that's what this is. It will most likely NEVER be written down and shared to the world, because frankly that's not why I'm making it.

The point of this post was to show just how much Sailor Moon as effected and changed me over the years. To the point that I want to be part of it, and the silly little story I created to satisfiy that part of me. I can hope that maybe one day it'll happen, but we know it never will.

I would kinda like to see it as a statement on what it means to have a dream, even if you know it can never come true.

I apperciate your thoughts Nikkou, but to be blunt it's MY dream, and that gives me all the possiblities in the world.

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:50 pm
by Garath the Shadowshifter
Little PS here: In the anime the silver cyrstal is theorized to BE Sailor Moon's Star Seed. Being as how when her star seed shows up, it looks to be the silver cyrstal. Showing just how much of a connection she has to the crystal, and vice versa.

So in all fairness the Dark Imperium Crsytal can be Miyuko's star seed and yet STILL do what I want it to do. ^_^;

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:04 pm
by Mitera Nikkou
Oh, I understand perfectly. All too well. But I can't help being a nuisance and teasing people I know. Not in the biblical sense, of course. ;p

I just wanted you to know that, if those in the community couldn't be trusted, and they didn't know or understand you, they would probably be laughing their asses off at you. But, as it is, there wasn't much else I could do to respond to this topic, in all seriousness.

We differ with Sailor Moon because, to you, your interests are quite personal. For me, my interests are more along the lines of sharing a story rather than keeping it. In particular, there's a glaring paradox in both the anime and manga that I like to play with in my head. As to what it is... You'll have to wait until I write about it. Which might never happen. <_<;

As for your PS: If it were her star seed, then how was she able to live while her mother had it? ;p Think, McFly; think.

Wait, don't tell me... She had to be a parasite to live, and her mother was her host! :lol:

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Basically, for me, it just comes down to holes; and anime tends to have more of them. I can have fun filling them in, certainly, but I prefer to know exactly how something is instead of making assumptions. But that's why I'm having fun with what I'm doing here, because, despite the anime's holes, your fantasy has no holes. Fantasies have no holes. Unless you somehow forget something that's important enough to inspire the fantasy... What are the chances of that? O.o

So, yeah... Besides which, I don't get much of an opportunity to yap atcha, and I wanted to barrage you with sensible nonsense before your trip. :3

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:05 pm
by Garath the Shadowshifter
*Snotish British Accent* OBVIOUSLY the crystal BECAME her Star Seed when she was re-born, causing it to become part of her.


Accent aside, in the anime it's Serena's tear that causes the Silver Crystal to form. So it's quite possible that it became her star seed due to the resserection process, which would also make sense for it to happen to Miyuko.

I still wish I could get an idea on what her friggen cat looks like. I'm pretty sure it's male, but a name escapes me.

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:59 pm
by Mitera Nikkou
Geronimo. How's that for a name? :P

Actually, what you're describing is more in line with the manga, not the anime. In the anime, the crystal is separate from Usagi and each of the seven pieces of it contain one of Beryl's elite warriors and whatnot. So that doesn't explain how she manages to live up until that time without her star seed, unless she already had a star seed. Because nothing exists without a star seed. Which is why everyone's bodies go bye-bye when their star seed is taken. It's the manga where the Ginshuishou is inside of her from the get-go and forms from a tear; in the anime the tear is more of a prop.

If you're going to stand by the anime, don't do me a favor by standing on a carpet. :lol:

Now, trying to get a rise out of you aside, you've never seen the cat, even in fantasy? Why are you sure it's male? Have you tried being inspired by the homeworld of the moon cats? Have a favorite type of cat in real life? What kind of cat do you think suits Miyuko's personality, or provides a nice complement? And stuff like that.

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:03 pm
by Lanzerus
the bolded part are really the only important ones...the rest is more of my rambling..


Well, I really can't talk a whole lot about finally ending a series that had played an important part in your life because I am sort of the type that goes and watches a series half way through, gets slightly bored and looses track and begins to watch something else, really if i finished a series it was because it truely held my interest or I find a reason to watch it because of my cousin(he left for college and i rarely see him.).

The only series I can truely say i watched all the way through were Azumanga Diaoh, and Lucky Star, and both of those were because i was doing it for my older cousin AND they caught my interest, azumanga diaoh because the characters were interesting and the jokes were always good, but i cryed at the end knowing it was truely over and not even the manga takes the plot any further. I laughed at Lucky Star because a true anime nerd like me got 90% of the really obscure references to other animes and like AzuDiaoh it ends in fairly the same way, the group breaking up and going separate ways for college, once again it was an ending i cryed over.

both made me laugh and cry at other points, but both left the sort of "its over, where is more?" sort of feeling, guessing how long it was for you to watch all of sailor moon + the sentimental value it has for you must be quite hurtful, because both Azumanga Diaoh and Lucky Star were fairly short (24-26 episodes), so the length didn't bother me that bad, but it was the fact it was a series that my cousin suggested for me that made me feel bad. If i could do anything to help I would, but alas, I am not japanese, I can't write Japanese, and I can't materialize a new season of Sailor Moon for you.

Re: The Final Sailor Moon...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:43 am
by Garath the Shadowshifter
Nikkou, please stop trying to piss me off. It's not nice when someone attacks a personal dream like this.

The idea of it being her star seed is that when Serena was reborn, the cyrstal became part of her. Perhaps due to a wish of her mother. Yes it was the seven rainbow crystals that came together to form the thing, but it was still Serena's tear that caused it to happen. Say the crystals were the mere shell of the cyrstal fragmented. The tear was the true 'soul' of it, and that's why it was needed to make the thing form.

Miyuko could be the same way. Since she took the Dark Imperium crystal with her when she was sent to be reborn, the crystal could have become HER star seed.

I'm being nice Nikkou, and I know you're just having a bit of fun. But you're taking it too far. Please stop. Suggestions are fine, but don't talk to me like I NEED to change things.

If you truly understood, then you wouldn't be doing this. Or do you not understand how important this dream is to me?

I know it's retarded ok? I know it's stupid of me to have this dream. But d*** it, just one day. Just one day in that world. I just want to talk to them once. They don't even have to like me. I just want to meet them once. I don't even get to dream about them. You'd think I've have dreams where I could talk to them all the time, but it doesn't work that way.

I can't explain why I want to be Serena's sibling so bad. I don't really understand it myself, but I do understand that being obsessed with anything is bad for your health. So I just let it be a silly dream and nothing more. There isn't anything else I can do. No amount of searching, or work will lead me to having this dream fullfilled. I accepted that long ago. But I just don't see any reason to discard the dream. I think it's very important to have a dream. Even if you can't get it right away, or ever at all.

I have other dreams that can be granted if I work hard at them. So it's ok if this one won't come true.

Well... that aside, the reason I know the cat is male, is because a male cat suits me. I tried to imagine having a female one, and it felt wrong. I know it'd be a black cat. I've been in love with black cats for a long time. I have over 80 stuffed animals of black cats and panthers.

My first black cat in fact was named Panther. But sadly, he isn't with me anymore. Hasn't been for eight years now.

That's why I'm pretty sure it's male. Miyuko is a part of me. She's a part of me that just doesn't come out much by herself, but she's still a part of me. The simple fact is there is just more Garath in me then Miyuko, and it's how it'll always be. In the end I'm a guy. I don't mean just physically, I think like a male. I react like a male. I -WANT- to be a male. If souls have genders, mine is male.

Doesn't mean there can't be a bit of a female in me either. She's just not who I really am. I'm sure that makes some kinda sense.