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Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:12 am
by Kris_Roth
Ah, yes, the sequel to Michael Bay's 2007 hit, Transformers, pits heroic Autobots against evil Decepticons, as a new threat looms over the horizon. Some new Autobots arrive, Mudflap and Skids, who are mostly comic relief. They even had the Constructicons, who transform into Devestator. They actually showed Devestator's "balls."

Jetfire was an SR-71 Blackbird (the X-men's jet), and Wheelie was a kids's toy car. They had a Decepticon infiltration unit who could disguise herself as a human female to get to poor Sam. Soundwave and Ravage were awesome, and the interaction with Starscream, the coward he is, and his superior, Megatron, was classic.

The Fallen was a Decepticon, who corrupted Megatron, and then pretty much Megatron adopted his visage as the current Decepticon symbol, which all Decepticons in the movie sported.

Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:58 pm
by ZeroForever
honestly i'm going to have to go with the hater crowds... that was one of the worst pieces of s@#$ i've seen in a long time.

more plot holes then i can to count, despite being 150 mins long it still rushed multiple scenes while stretching others out way to long.

The villains fail on every level of that they could fail. Battle scenes ranged from good to looking like it was a gay robotic orgy.

Honestly i never really understood why people hated Michael Bay so much before... now i really do.

Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:19 am
by Dracos
[rant]I thought it was generally meh, which was exactly what I was expecting. IMO, the battles had the same problem as the first movie, but far worse; the combat inevitably turned into fistfights which were mostly a blur of metal where, except for a few especially color robots, it is difficult to tell who's who. This is made far worse by each side at least doubling the number of robots, most of them without any personality or character development. I also didn't much care for the whole "only a prime can kill this guy" or the "by the way, you know how once your spark is destroyed, you can't come back? Turns out, not so much." My favorite thing about the first movie was that the humans were actually able to do something with their weapons, and that did hold true in this one with the rail gun. Don't try and tell me that thing couldn't kill the fallen; he's just metal and bolts.[/rant]

Overall, the action was alright, the plot was mediocre, and there were some very cool things. There were certainly countless plot holes, but I kinda expected that, so I don't count that against them too much. Despite my rant, I'd give it 2 stars.

Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:52 am
by Zoei
Dracos, its important that you always give a maximum in a scale.. 2 stars means a lot if its out of 2 or 60.. (Yeah I know generally it goes from 4-5 but that's still a big difference if its a 5 point scale 2 is slightly under average)

Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:34 am
by Dracos
Movie scales are out of four stars; it's an industry standard.

Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:13 pm
by Zoei
5 is clearly a superior scaling system

Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:20 pm
by Ookalf
I just got back from seeing it, and I, at least, felt it was pretty awesome.

Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:56 pm
by Marky
Eh. I know why I'm not a movie critic. I actually thought the movie was really good...and better than the first. *shrug*

Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:37 am
by Dracos
Zoei wrote:5 is clearly a superior scaling system


True, a good scale should have 3,5,7, or 10 points. (The first three have a clear middle-point, and 10 is intuitive) However, I was unfortunately not responsible for the creation of the industry standard.

Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:15 am
by ZeroForever
Make no mistake, a great number of people will be entertained by this flick and it offers, well, to say the least, a few aircraft carriers full of special effects for your money. Sadly, that's about everything good there is to say about "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen". Not only was the huge number of negative reviews for this film justified, but the second cinematic installment in the "Transformers" series is really paradigmatic of everything movies should not be.

It all starts with the sub-par acting of Shia LeBeouf, which, by now at least, no longer comes as a surprise. Megan Fox, who plays the admittedly hot Mikaela Banes, doesn't really help either, as her role seems to be limited to bumping into stuff, falling and subsequently finding herself in ready-made bikini model poses, cleavage wide open. The story, if that is what we can call what little is left when we subtract 140 minutes of explosions from the film, is so blatantly drenched in in-ya-face product placement that even the most bullshit-resistant viewers will find it hard to look away.

Now you might say: "Fair enough, but wasn't the first 'Transformers' just the same?". Well, here's where the real problems of "Revenge of the Fallen" start. While the original "Transformers" had some genuinely original, funny and gripping moments, "Revenge of the Fallen" largely lacks these elements. Most of the transforming and warping sidekicks are simply robotic versions of stale clichés, the humor has taken a turn for the worse and hardly any suspense builds up at all. It is this general lack of originality that makes for the new "Transformers" film to be so much less than good and entertaining popcorn cinema.

150 minutes of random stuff blowing up without any real substance to the plot, cliché upon cliché, bad actor upon bad actor, and every so often a pseudo-moralistic lecture given to the audience by some over-sized pile of talking CGI-rubble - I can do without that kind of wisdom! Even just thinking about how many more people are going to watch this movie rather than one of this summer's real cinematic gems, such as Charlie Kaufman's "Synechdoche, New York", makes me a little sick!


this review on IMDB is pretty close to what i thought of the movie

Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:30 pm
by Zoey
I saw the movie yesterday and I have to admit even with all the hate, I liked the movie. I saw with some friends and we shouted when we saw Optimus combine with JetFire for some mayor butt pwning and not to mention the fight earlier when Optimus alone fought like 4 Decepticons and almost won, put he still pwned. I know the movie ins't perfect, but I've seen bigger piles of dump than Transformers 2. I would give it 3 1/2 stars of 5.

Re: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:20 pm
by Zoei
I like how someone phrased it on rpg.net. Its the first move turned up to 11. The stupid parts are stupider. THe Awesome parts are awesomer.