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Postby Mitera Nikkou » Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:03 pm

Just how evil people can be, especially in relation to corporations and government.

Bayer sells AIDS-tainted medication.

It's this kind of shit that really pisses me off. Destruction to all involved. :evil:
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Postby Kalm » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:30 pm

Wow...There went the last of my faith in humanity. Seriously, they were so desperate to make money that they sold AIDS to people?

I am not entirely sure how to convey how pathetic this is in English.

Reading the comments, if true, does shed light on the nature of the ones selling this, though it does not really give enough insight on their motives.
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Postby Chibi MitchellTF » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:07 pm

I think the comments shed light on the commentors more than the commented...
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Postby Kalm » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:12 pm

Kinda. The more I read, the more the submitter looks like a nutjob. Kinda.
Either way, I'm still interested, so I'll be wasting my time by looking into it further.
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Postby muffinstud » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:22 pm

I'm just appalled at what's happening to all those people out there affected by this. Hemophilia is a nasty disease all by itself, but add AIDS into the mix? I just wish there was something that could be done to help them
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Postby Anamnesis » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:24 pm

It may be a bit...morbid of me, but maybe they believed they were helping by...getting rid of the hemophiliacs faster?
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Postby Chibi MitchellTF » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:26 pm

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I don't think they were that smart or that dumb. I just think they were greedy bastards. (Not, as the comments state, Nazi Bastards.)
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Postby Anamnesis » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:55 pm

Well, where it isn't hard to believe that they were doing it for money, it seems more apparent to me the money and suffering that could be saved by hemophiliacs not...well, living with hemophilia. This...might be because I'm a little on the paranoid side, but it is still somewhat rational...Albeit to a lesser degree than most.
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Postby muffinstud » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:06 am

No, from a cold corporate perspective, it is better for the hemophiliacs to live. They need the anticoagulants supplied by the drug company to make sure they don't bleed to death if someone bumps into them the wrong way. Especially in the advanced stages, a person can become entirely dependent upon the drugs to live.
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Postby Stellar » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:44 pm

I can't say anything.

There's no way I could express how that makes me feel.

And that happened a while ago. The date it was submitted was April '06. Not that it matters how long ago it was. It's still wrong. It's not even wrong. It's evil. Why not just drop bombs on the countries and deny it was intentional. At least you'd be instantly killing bpeople rather then giving them a disease that ruins lives of not only those infected, but their families, friends, and peers.
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Postby Tiaiel » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:27 pm

I think someday I will just die from a shattered heart.
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Postby P-tan » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:40 pm

Damn, I might not understand it 100% but I know this is just sick. So the company put HIV in the drugs for hemophiliacs and it killed people. I don't know why they did it though. Profit? I only see others sueing them for what they did.

I see a conspiracy.
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Postby Mitera Nikkou » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:11 pm

From what I've gathered, they pulled out the contaminated product back in the early eighties, from America and Europe, but then continued to sell it to other countries when they had a new product that was safer, which was sold in America (and possibly Europe). From what I understand of this, the company had a better market for their product in America and Europe, so it was in their best interest to do their best in those countries as far as quality and assurance was concerned. At the time, the other countries weren't really buying nearly as much; their product wasn't all that much demanded. But they still had a bunch of this older product lying around, that they had pulled from America and Europe, and it would have been a waste of money to get rid of it instead of sell it.

So, as far as I can tell, it's said that the FDA wouldn't allow Bayer to sell the tainted product domestically, so they went ahead and sold it to other countries while they sold their new, safer product in America. That's pretty incriminating right there. See, if the older product had been safe, they would have had no problem continuing to sell it while the new product was picking up steam. For one, that would have meant that more of the product would have been available, and it's said that not much of the new product was made all that quickly because there wasn't much of a supply of plasma at the time, which was needed to make the medicine. Plus, the new product was more expensive, so the old would have been easier to sell. Normally, when something is starting to be replaced, they try and sell as many of the older version of something before there's no market for it anymore, but that's not what happened here. There are certain methods used in a capitalistic market and, when the method deviates from what is normal, then there must be a reason for it other than what's normal for common practice.

I mean, it's common knowledge that, no matter if it's a one-person venture or a multinational business, people can go to great lengths to try and save what they had earned in the face of a problem that could result in a significant loss and/or getting involved with the law. You can even see it in legal businesses, such as insurance companies, that are not willing to accommodate you so easily even if your claim irrefutably meets the terms for compensation.
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