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I dunno. What's the price?

I think it is. Gessh! @_@

I'm going to have to wait untill the price drops. You know the poor college student bit. >>

Figment on the canvas wrote:I dunno. What's the price?

$499 for basic (20 gig hard drive)

$599 for premium (60 gig hard drive)

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How much are the Blu-ray players?
Because, technically, that's the most expensive thing in the entire machine...At least...I'm fairly sure it is...
Either way, both are too expensive, so...

Also, who voted pirates? That is what some of us call a 'suicide maneuver;' Steel yourself, the ninja know where you hide.

i voted pirates....*evil Herro-ish glare*

What are the hard drives for, and what difference does more gigs make? I just know what the ones for computers are good for, and I don't see a console installing games into itself rather than just play the games by reading the CDs. O.o

Still, too much. And I'm not in favor of this Blu-ray thing. Seems to be another marketing ploy to me, making people spend more money on a new format until DVDs aren't produced anymore, and then a new format comes out to make Blu-ray obsolete. All in the hopes that you spend extra money on up-to-date versions of movies and stuff that you already own. And, at the very least, spend money on new machines and the new merchandise/media/miscellaneous equipment for them. -_-

actually there not really overpriced if you consider the stuff it holds... blue ray players by them selves are going for 1k on the market atm.

Thank you for that. So, it must be that Sony has found a cheap, easy way to produce these damned things, to be seling them, WITH the rest of the console, for $400 less than the player itself is worth...

or they really haven't... and are taking a huge hit per a system sold atm.... just like they did initially with the PS2. They prices are project for sales in several months from now so the blue-ray price will decrease but it'll still be the same estimated price as the system itself costs not even including the other things.

It is over-priced, in that it is far more than anyone would be willing to pay. (Or, rather...SHOULD be willing to pay.)

However, Sony can't lower the price any more. They just made the mistake of sacrificing affordability. Same thing happened to the X-Box 360.

Whether or not the mistake will be LETHAL remains to be seen, with the production of the Wii.

I would rather buy a PC with that price.

If I'm basing it off of what it does, not at all. For what it contains, it's worth a lot more. I don't really care about what the Wii or the 360 are priced. I consider the value of a product to be what the product contains, and if the PS3 delivers the bare minumum of what it promises to deliver, than it's not really overpriced.

Now, is it a lot for a game console? Sure. But based on what it contains, if it delivers, than it's not overpriced, it's underpriced.

But, then the problem becomes: how do you estimate value? I'm not sure what the Blu-ray thing is to cost a grand by itself, but if it has the same function as a DVD player (in terms of service as a product) then I don't see why it's so expensive. I don't even see why something new should be so expensive for the sake of being new. Plus, if they're adding this Blu-ray thing to the PS3, probably only accounting for half of the console's price, then I say that it's a trick. Sony is acting as the charlatan. That is, Blu-ray really isn't worth a grand if they can tie it to a system for only $200-300. Hey, it's business; they're after your money, and satisfaction is just a means to that end. So I don't believe in corporations knowing the true value of anything, because they're tricky and they impose the rules of the game.

So Sony can bite the big one for all that I care. I want video games with my console; I don't care about all this extra junk, particularly if it raises the price so much. And while one could say that it's a deal considering what the video game console comes with (according to separate machine prices, like Blu-ray), then you've fallen into their big, meaty hands. They could have made the other stuff optional, but that's not how the game's played. They want their Blu-ray out there, and what better way than making it seem so inexpensive on a console well-known by millions?

I took Sony's lollipop to Mr. Owl and in the licking department it was found wanting. I'm not going to be dependent on Sony. Sony and its ilk have a history of taking advantage of people that are made to think that their way is the only, true way. So I'm sticking with Nintendo. The price will likely be more true (and it's more affordable for me) and I'll get the console for what I would buy it for: video games. Video games! Sony's console is just like a cell phone... I don't even know how they can call them cell phones anymore. -_-

Otherwise, I'm with Beyond: I'd rather get another PC for that price.

In short, you think that Sony is going to pull a Microsoft, and lose a LARGE amount of money over this?
>_>
Yeah, me too.

Wasn't even thinking of Microsoft. Just business in general. The free market is a plague. But that's neither here nor there... Perhaps in the Tea room some day.