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Postby May-chan » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:18 am

But my home town was the world's leading producer of windmills in the 19th and early 20th century... I've seen a great many O_O
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Postby Tiaiel » Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:00 pm

You see: the hole economy is based on illusions.
In a not too distant future everything will disappear in a cloud of dust.
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Just believe it.
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Postby AnimaVex » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:40 pm

Does that hole become bigger and swallow everything, similar to a Black Hole?
The wind is coming, and it tells a story more often silenced than not.

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Postby Mitera Nikkou » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:29 pm

Uberlurker:

Stop trying to rationalize stupid ideas! It makes my brain burrrrrrrrrrrrn...! X_X

*Wields the topic to steer things back to the support of intelligent ideas*
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Postby AnimaVex » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:29 am

*grabs some of Nikky's ideas and throws them back!* There. Have fun~
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Postby Mitera Nikkou » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:42 am

Okay... I didn't get that either... O.o

Woman, I'm barely getting any help here... Would you forsake the well-being of my brain so much? Or maybe trying to help myself will get you back at you... I'm in the mood for some revenge. *_*

Let's see...

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Postby Queen Octavia » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:09 am

Okay, if you didn't like my take on gender intelligence (in)equality, I'll take a stab at that "History is written by the victors" axiom, in serious fashion.

This one gets people all riled up because its subject of discourse is "the truth". People seem to think that what is "true" and what is not "true" matters a great deal in their lives. People like to think that our knowledge can extend back many generations, to the Napoleonic wars, the dark ages, the birth of Christianity and even earlier than that. People like to think that the past matters. They think this because if the past did not matter, then how could the future?

They think all this, but quite frankly it is not true. Sure, in the short term we remember that those Germans got the snot kicked out of them. That the Russians were too busy mass producing funny hats to win the cold war. We remember the perspective of the winner, for this small bit of time. We remember, because if we claimed otherwise these winners are still in power and would proceed to kicking the snot out of us.

However, when fortune fails the victors what then? What do we truly remember of the Napoleonic wars? I personally seem to recall some short guy who had millions trembling at his name. Would this have been Napoleon's perspective? I doubt it.

History is not written by those brute tyrants who command their troops to conquest. No, it is written by the artists of the age. The painters, the sculptists, the philosophers and their ilk. These people record it, the masses interpret what they see. Most things are lost. Some epic memories remain. The truly great stories of comedy, tragedy or whatever else entertained the people.

These are what we preserve as history. Written not by the victors, but by the artists. Thankfully, artists submit to the yoke less often than the common man. They are the fools who value their opinion more than their well being.

The victor's artists may paint a tale of unfounded invasion, the loser's may scuplt a fresco depicting the tragic massacres. Then as the years roll by and time grinds so many generations into dust, mankind will always remember what truly moved our hearts.

[Recommended reading - "Deadhouse Gates", book two of The Malazan Book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson. The whole series is excellent and one of the main characters in this book is a historian in the middle of a war. Book one not required, but highly recommended as it is excellent in its own right. Ditto books 3,4,5 & the ones I haven't read yet.]


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Postby Raleigh » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:12 am

I would argue history is written by historians. I find art to play only so much of a role, and at that it is usually to see into the life of the common noname whoever that lived and died tending to his field. I will however make the allowance that fiction/play writers do have some effect on the recording of history as well. After all, who would really remember much about Ceaser other than he was a man that took control of his country were it not for Shakespere. The Trojan Wars survive as a historical event thanks to fiction since it seems we are only recently beginning to find archeaological data telling us of something similar. Man still searches for Atlantis, even though it is only recorded in a few works by one poet. However, I do not see sculptures, paintings, or tripe of that nature really getting into the minds of humanity and making them remember history.
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Postby Amber » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:20 am

What about just eating spinach to regain your strength. It works for popeye at least.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=43 wrote:Iron for Energy

Cooked spinach is an excellent source of iron, a mineral that it particularly important for menstruating women, who are more at risk for iron deficiency. Boosting iron stores with spinach is a good idea, especially because, in comparison to red meat, a well-known source of iron, spinach provides iron for a lot less calories and is totally fat-free. Iron is an integral component of hemoglobin, which transports oxygen from the lungs to all body cells, and is also part of key enzyme systems for energy production and metabolism. And, if you're pregnant or lactating, your needs for iron increase. Growing children and adolescents also have increased needs for iron. In one cup of boiled spinach, you'll be provided with 35.7% of the daily value for iron.

So while spinach probably won't make you super strong the minute you eat it, as it did for Popeye, it will promote your health and vitality in many other ways. It seems like Popeye was pretty smart after all.
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