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Postby Mitera Nikkou » Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:17 am

I learned that some number of vegetarians don't even drink milk. So if their child was breastfed... How is that not cannibalism? O.o;;

Sounds like there's another stupid double-standard on the lam! *_*

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Postby Raleigh » Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:06 am

You know I've never thought of it like that but you are right.
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Postby Syllinia » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:20 pm

Well, they don't refuse to eat and drink animal products (like milk) because they consider it to be eating the animal, they do so as to not participate in the poor treatment of the animals... I think. So long as this is the case, unless they're concerned about the treatment of their breasts, there's nothing wrong with breast feeding.
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Postby Tiaiel » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:22 pm

No.
An animal can not decide weather it wants to give milk to the humans, and I'll bet cow's don't like to live with a minimum of space and nearly no possibility to move. A mother can choose to give it's milk to her child. The child isn't holding her in a small dark room together with 999 other mothers.
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Postby SweetSophia » Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:41 pm

Ok, I want to put in a footnote here, cows do enjoy being milked. I've spent enough time on farms and rural camps to know that cows do get engorged and it's painful for them. Feeding their babies relieves the pressure and they often make more milk than one calf can drink so it can be of assistance to the cow to milk it. Now, I'm not going to justify any inhumane conditions to poor cows or any removal of their calfs for humans to horde the milk alone, but the cows I've met were treated well and seemed pretty happy with being milked. And, happy cows produce more milk. It all depends on where you get the milk and their practices.
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Postby Lucky » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:56 pm

Tiaiel wrote:No.
An animal can not decide weather it wants to give milk to the humans, and I'll bet cow's don't like to live with a minimum of space and nearly no possibility to move. A mother can choose to give it's milk to her child. The child isn't holding her in a small dark room together with 999 other mothers.


Milk cows are treated great. If you don't treat the cows nicely they don't make milk. I've never seen a miss treated milk cow in my life. Hell I personally know alot of farmers who raise beef cows and thows cows have a awesome life, (till there eaten of course.)

I've only seen ONE farm were they did not treat there beef cows right, what they did was they were too lazy to buy/trade and new bull... Let's just say these cows were more inbreed then Royalty or Back woods hill folk could ever hope to be.

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So in the end it's like this. Most farmers treat there cows right. There might be a few here and there that don't, but it's like dogs. There some people who own dogs that realy shouldn't.
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Postby Flannery » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:05 pm

No.
An animal can not decide weather it wants to give milk to the humans, and I'll bet cow's don't like to live with a minimum of space and nearly no possibility to move. A mother can choose to give it's milk to her child. The child isn't holding her in a small dark room together with 999 other mothers.


You don't know how dairy farms really operate do you?
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Postby Selena Aninikkou » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:14 am

Lucky wrote:There might be a few here and there that don't, but it's like dogs. There some people who own dogs that realy shouldn't.


Yeah, like my neighbors. They treat their animals more like status symbols than living things, and they're always roaming the neighborhood...

OTOH, as long as my family has had pets, they've always been treated as part of the family. The general result of that are dogs that look like this:

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