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Postby Lanzerus » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:35 pm

okay, i am really unhappy, for all i care, i am not male, for i am intelligent enough to NOT cause chaos and destruction.

here is pretty much what happened:

"Hey keaton! we are going to go into the gym and screw around with the electrical equipment. Want to come?" says my friend with his typical pseudo-retard smile.
"It will be fun!" says another, supposedly the intelligent one in the group. He looks like he is almost albino
"No, thats retarded you both are going to get caught." i said with a stern no.
Later that day over the intercom blares the message "WOULD *names withheld* AND *names withheld* PLEASE COME TO THE OFFICE!" would you know what happened? they got caught, they managed to screwup the schools $300 sound system in the gym and cause a short circuit in the light system.


Who did they blame it on? the one that said "no" And even AFTER i explained it to the principal He Still Blamed ME! just because i was openly mad at the gym teacher a few days earlier, I EVEN HAD FREAKING WITNESSES! that EXPLAINED how i said no, to the two IDIOTS!
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Deployed Lio » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:52 am

What males are the only ones to pass the buck? I've seen girls do it plenty of times and they seem to get away with it more. Chaos and stupidity comes in both genders to beleive otherwise is just ignorant.

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Re: I Say No.

Postby Mitera Nikkou » Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:16 am

Is that even relevant, Lio? Maybe you need a reality check, too. :P

Keaton dar:

Anyway, are you saying those two turned around and blamed you? If so, what need for enemies, right?
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Stellar » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:06 am

How did you get blamed when they were the ones to physically ruin the equippment? Even if the case was (and I'm not saying it is, just speaking the way the principal seems to view it), "Keaton told us to!" the argument remains, "Well why did you go and do it?"

Mankind can be so illogical it pains me. But i have this saying that I apply to various situations: "Well... That sucks. Get over it =)" (and don't forget the smiley face or to smile if it's in real life!)
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Re: I Say No.

Postby ZeroForever » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:09 pm

hmm sounds like human stupidity at it's standard (the peak would be winning a darwin award or something)

either way blaming it on you is rather lame, but stuff like this happens to both sexes, i mean this is like the if some one told you jump off a bridge analogy, even if they did somehow convince them you told them to, there still the retard for doing it.

honestly if there not friends... kick there ass, if there friends kick there ass... i would suggest a steel bat.
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Lanzerus » Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:33 pm

...to the gender issue : at least with girls they aren't stupid to cause $400+ damage in school property.

And i told the prinicple straight up front, "it wasn't me, i didn't do it, they did and i have proof."
and he turned around and did something i would have expected from someone online and said " Is the proof photographic?"

And about the kicking their asses, i would, i want to, but i DON'T want a suspension/ jail term for murder, even if they do deserve it....

also, i am slightly unhappy, my mom wants to get my hair cut, and it took her 15 minutes AFTER me to figure out it was a gay man's magazine.
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Deployed Lio » Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:05 am

Empyrean Nikkou wrote:Is that even relevant, Lio? Maybe you need a reality check, too. :P


Well let's see, he did say:

keaton dar wrote:okay, i am really unhappy, for all i care, i am not male, for i am intelligent enough to NOT cause chaos and destruction.


I think my coment was quite 'relevant', I think that's spelled wrong. I'm really tired of people saying they rather be one gender or the other based on stereotypes. Chaos and destruction doesn't depend on a persons gender to happen, it doesn't matter the amount of money involved with the destruction. It could have just as easily been cause by two stupid girl.

My comment about my lack of proper spelling is irrelevant, but I'm trying to get better at it so I'm appologizing for my inability to do so at this time.
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Mitera Nikkou » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:01 am

The way that I read it, he said that he was intelligent enough to where he couldn't cause chaos and destruction, not that he was a perfect, intelligent girl that does nothing wrong. But let's face the fact that history plainly gives the belt of destruction and idiocy (not necessarily ignorance) to males. A stereotype, perhaps, but no less true.

I might have thought what other had concluded if the culprits had been girls, but they're boys, too. So... I didn't see gender as relevant to the main issue: false accusation.

And, yes, "relevant" is spelled right. Stop huffing the mustard gas. :P

Keaton:

Oh, I'm sure some girls have caused property damage, whether intentional or not. Girls have the capability to do what guys can.

And keep the hair if you like it, if you can. I still don't know why people make hair an issue for guys.
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Stellar » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:06 am

Empyrean Nikkou wrote:I still don't know why people make hair an issue for guys.

Before I transitioned, I got turned down at two sit down restraunts durring the interview because I wasn't willing to cut my hair. It's so retarted, I didn't have bangs at the time and I told them both I can keep my hair up, and after they said it's not an issue of keeping it restrained, it's an issue of length in general, I looked around and pointed to girls that were working that didn't even have their hair held back in pony tails, "Her hair is a third longer then mine, and length is an issue?" "... Yes. I'm sorry but we need to conclude this, I'll give you a call for a second interview after I considder todays interview."
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Mitera Nikkou » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:50 am

Should have got them for discrimination. If it ever happens again, just point out that Jesus had long hair and a beard. His job was Messiah. And I'd laugh if anyone were to say that it is because long hair and facial hair is sacred. Pffff!
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Musashi » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:39 pm

keaton dar wrote:...to the gender issue : at least with girls they aren't stupid to cause $400+ damage in school property.


Oh yes they aaaare~ Trust me, girls can be absolutely packed FULL of stupid. Immense, ridiculous amounts of stupid. Unfathomable bottomless pits of stupid. Because many people in this world, regardless of gender, do really stupid things. ^_^

And to Nikkou, I think this gender issue thing came up because Keaton said "i am not male, for i am intelligent enough to NOT cause chaos and destruction." Which tends to come off as "Being male = chaos and destruction, so not causing it = not male." And "not male" usually makes one think "female." And females do often have the stereotype applied to them that they are always very intelligent and never get into trouble, which is a big looooaaaaad. XD;

keaton dar wrote:And i told the prinicple straight up front, "it wasn't me, i didn't do it, they did and i have proof."
and he turned around and did something i would have expected from someone online and said " Is the proof photographic?"


Haha, so he was like "pix plz?" XD Man, that is lame. Anyway, you might wanna consider hangin' with some new friends? @_@ It doesn't seem very friend-like of them to let you take the blame.
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Lanzerus » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:01 pm

By what i am saying is I don't DESERVE to be in the (yes, its quite stereotypical of me, but get over it) group of idiots that are reffered to as men, and yes, he bascially said, in a dumber sense, "pix plz." as if I have always caused trouble, which isn't true, sure i have had...3 detentions over the last year, but thats because my teachers hate me, and guess what, right after i left from being "accused" of doing this, the principle turns to my friends that have 5 and 6 detentions apiece, and he trusts THEM more than me, i gave testimonials from me, and 3 girls that told the priciple that they SAID they were going to do this...

and the hair issue:

Its not that i don't want it cut, its that she was trying to pick styles out of a gay men's magazine. no offense to anyone on the board if they go that way, its just that I don't.
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Musashi » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:31 pm

keaton dar wrote:By what i am saying is I don't DESERVE to be in the (yes, its quite stereotypical of me, but get over it) group of idiots that are reffered to as men


A lot of guys don't deserve it, because a lot of men are very intelligent. :P So fight the stereotype of male = stupid~! Because it is obviously not true, right? ^^



keaton dar wrote:and the hair issue:

Its not that i don't want it cut, its that she was trying to pick styles out of a gay men's magazine. no offense to anyone on the board if they go that way, its just that I don't.


Well, was it a magazine of "gay man hairstyles" (I wasn't aware such a thing existed @_@), or just a gay men's magazine that she was lookin' at and liked some of their haircuts? As far as I'm aware, gay men get the same haircuts as anyone else. So it likely wouldn't matter. I mean, no one would label you as gay because of your hair. Anyway, I'm just sayin'. *Shrug* Pick something that you liiiike~ HAIRCUT FOR GREAT JUSTICE. ALL YOUR HAIR ARE BELONG TO US. *EXPLODE*
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Mitera Nikkou » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:00 pm

Musashi:

Oh, I know it can be seen that way, but I am not sexual, so I'm intelligent enough to not jump to conclusions based on possible allusions. :P :P :P

In the end it's mostly in our minds. The dangly bits between someone's legs only defines as much about anything as the individual that has them believes they should/do. But as far as seeking offspring are concerned, it's only common sense regarding what to think and what to do. The problem is that for such a long time we've made a habit of believing them to play more important roles than what they're made for, a lot of which are just silly ideas with no bearing on reality. Such as someone with dangly bits being the ones with the property, earns the wages, makes the important decisions, subjugates the people with the hidden bits, et cetera. Complete, silly fantasies.

So when I see feminists and rising violent crimes by females, I just think it's tit for tat. Nothing special there. Except my playing with words. I just love making a boob of myself.

Keaton dar:

I say do whatever you want with your hair. Heaven knows I can never make up my own mind. I tend to let my hair grow to about mid-back and then I lop it off. I do the same when my beard grows long enough. All gone. No rhyme or reason to it. Right now it's growing out again. Jesus, here I cometh. :O
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Re: I Say No.

Postby Baku Genkaku » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:33 pm

Just so you can get a better sense of said situation. Girls can do JUST as much damage as a guy. It does not have to be direct. Most of the time, no, you will not see a girl screw up a $300 piece of equipment because they thought it would be cool. [unless you are in Louisiana *cough*]. But women have a thing called "being vindictive". It is an emotion that causes thoughts of spite and long term revenge long after the damaging effects of the wrong have occured and passed. Through this emotion women have a natural tendancy to "manipulate" whether through the word of mouth/gossip/rumors to tarnish the social standing of said person who commited the wrong, or through flaunting of their God given devices over the easily manipulated hormones of the male gender. Through the second method, you could get said male to do the previously stated damage that a female wouldn't do directly THROUGH him...

One good example of a female causing damage through the actions of others, would be the Trojan war... Try to come up with a property damage value for THAT. :D Another popular example [and the best] would be the character 'Chris' in the movie "Carrie". She got practicly everyone killed at the dance by being "vindictive" toward Carrie and her coach, "manipulated" her boyfriend [Travolta] to cut out pig throats, and then spill blood on a [up until the point after the blood was poured] complete innocent.

Yes, men let testosterone get in the way of thought about...20-30% of the time and are very brash and public about it. But women let emotion take contol of reason 20-30% of the time. A lack of thought some of the time can cause JUST as much damage as deluded thoughts.
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