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Big Bang Theory

Postby Mitera Nikkou » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:46 pm

I don't think the Big Bang Theory explains much of anything of importance, so I don't believe in it.
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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Haylie » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:43 pm

No. For several reasons I don't feel I should state, if only to avoid religious disputes.

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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Mendi-chan » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:40 pm

Religious issues aside, I don't think the Big Bang Theory gives any substantial evidence to support its claim. In the end, it seems that it boils down to this impossible equation.

Nothing + Time = Something

I don't think so...
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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Mitera Nikkou » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:43 pm

Well, I don't think anyone will be able to conceive how anything exists at all. Because it always goes back to a common denominator that can't itself be explained. Whether it's the existence of God or the four elements that somehow broke down to cause the Big Bang, how did the things before the creation of the universe come to be? How can something always (or never) be?

My solution has been to think of everything as nothing, and that that nothing is actually something. Chaos, basically. My basis for it lies within how everything seems to have a duality, where something can be one thing, or its opposite, at any given time. It even shows up in our concepts, with such things as: for a left there is a right, for a good there is an evil, and for a right there is a wrong.

So, why don't I believe in the Big Bang Theory? It only addresses the expansion of the universe, and leaves out the contraction. It assumes that the universe existed some odd years ago based on the evidence of the beginning of just one expansion. But if you look around the universe, it's full of stars exploding and then coalescing into new stars. And yet scientists expect the universe to end once the expansion spreads to a certain point. Who's to say that everything won't then start to contract until it reaches the point before the "big bang" and do it all over again? I mean, isn't everything else that we see cycles and processes? Why not existence, too? That's the sort of chaotic thing that I can believe in: not in an infinite or finite universe, but a universe that is infinite in its finiteness.
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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Sasha » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:44 pm

I vote for pie
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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Mitera Nikkou » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:02 pm

You can't! So shut your pie hole! :lol:
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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Gee-chan » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:49 am

Well, I personally think it would be important. If we work out what happened we may be able to work out WHY it happened.

Mendokusee wrote:Religious issues aside, I don't think the Big Bang Theory gives any substantial evidence to support its claim. In the end, it seems that it boils down to this impossible equation.

Nothing + Time = Something

I don't think so...


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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Sasha » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:49 pm

Empyrean Nikkou wrote:You can't! So shut your pie hole! :lol:


NO U *hits Nikkou in the face with a cream pie.*
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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Mitera Nikkou » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:30 pm

*Eats it*

This pie hole was made for eating pie! Foolish mortal~

And to those who believe the big bang explains the creation of the universe: I feel for you. I really do. But we all can't be "winners", can we? :P
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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Helel » Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:54 am

A theory is a theory, not a law. So I'll leave the big bang as such. :D
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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Mitera Nikkou » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:28 am

That doesn't stop theories from being used as laws, though. Still, a good (if somewhat evasive) answer.
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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Selena Aninikkou » Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:48 am

Empyrean Nikkou wrote:Who's to say that everything won't then start to contract until it reaches the point before the "big bang" and do it all over again?


There was a time when scientists seriously thought this would be the ultimate fate of the universe. However, there is just too much mass moving outwards from the center for the galaxies to reverse their outward motion, so...
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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Mitera Nikkou » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:16 am

Or so they think. I know what one of their theories is on that, about how things are speeding up and in a long time nothing but protons will exist. I don't buy it. It doesn't make sense for existence, which no one can figure out the beginning of, to have an end. All that they know is that stuff started to expand at a certain point, but not how that stuff got there in the first place. Besides, if that were the end, then it would make the beginning evident; and it works the other way around, too. I still see no eureka moment, or even an explanation for the vast majority of mass/gravity/energy that we notice the presence of but can't see.
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Re: Big Bang Theory

Postby Helel » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:53 pm

Empyrean Nikkou wrote:That doesn't stop theories from being used as laws, though.


Yes it does, that's why science bothers to make such a distinction between things that can't be conclusively proven (yet), and laws which have been proven.

It's why there's the LHC. If nothing happens, then oh well. If something haaaaaaaaaappens, then there may be some revisions to theories, postulates, and maybe a new law or five.
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