IRC log of Cochineal on 2011-02-09

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00:19:34 [nathanbp]Hey I don't even have a DeCSS t-shirt!
00:20:33 [nathanbp]so I'm not really sure how I could buy "another" shirt
00:21:36 [Pipian]You didn't have a De-AACS shirt?
00:22:52 [nathanbp]no
00:22:59 [Pipian]Okay then
00:23:05 [Pipian]Then I don't know what Sam was talking about
02:40:08 [Puyopuyo]!pointer
02:40:08 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-09.html#T2-40-8
02:40:39 [Puyopuyo]...you don't?
02:40:43 [Puyopuyo]I could've sworn that you did.
02:41:09 [nathanbp]nope
02:41:12 [Puyopuyo]Huh
02:41:14 [Puyopuyo]Well, sorry then
03:09:56 [Puyopuyo]For Jenn: http://feeds.nytimes.com/click.phdo?i=7e60e5e01bb8fc852e1b3ace91d13743
03:47:47 [Puyopuyo]http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-02-08/keroro-gunso/sgt-frog-tv-anime-ending-in-march <- Well Nathan, maybe they'll finally start catching up.
04:00:38 [Puyopuyo]Side for Jenn: I presume you've heard about The Wii Play?
04:00:40 [Puyopuyo]*Plays?
04:00:51 [Puyopuyo](Man, I'm just queueing up on Sacchi.)
04:19:33 [gadgetgrl]!pointer
04:19:33 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-09.html#T4-19-33
04:20:13 [gadgetgrl]just recently ran into them (today in fact)(
04:20:22 [Puyopuyo]?
04:21:09 [gadgetgrl]wii plays
04:21:13 [gadgetgrl]and ha!
04:21:16 [Puyopuyo]Ah
04:21:19 [gadgetgrl]i wonder how many were due to people stupidity
04:36:59 [Puyopuyo]Well, that was annoying, but I once again have a twitter account. Now I will let it languish.
04:51:19 [Pipian]Why would you do that to yourself
04:51:43 [Puyopuyo]So that I may win free stuff on occasion.
04:52:07 [Puyopuyo]Is it marketing? Sure. Would I have bought it anyway? Depending on the product, probably!
04:52:14 [Puyopuyo]Do I have followers? Absolutely not!
04:52:17 [Puyopuyo]I ruin the machine!
05:03:04 [Pipian]how dare you
05:03:15 [Pipian]don't you understand the intricacies of social networks
05:04:15 [Puyopuyo]Eh. I'm tired of the internet. It'll have to go.
05:47:31 [Pipian]Okay
05:47:33 [Pipian]That's it
05:47:35 [Pipian]xkcd
05:47:39 [Pipian]you're off my bookmarks
05:47:50 [Puyopuyo]My thought exactly.
05:47:57 [Puyopuyo]I went back two comics to see if there was anything redeeming.
05:48:08 [Puyopuyo]I know I'm bored when I check XKCD.
05:48:13 [Puyopuyo]But...wow. That's the end.
05:49:12 [Pipian]I mean
05:49:27 [Pipian]It's pretty bad when even Megatokyo can justify staying on my list without being visited
05:49:40 [Pipian]While xkcd actually manages to make me make the effort to take it off
05:49:40 [nathanbp]It'll still take them quite a while to finish subbing it, Sam
05:50:36 [nathanbp]...wow xkcd.
05:50:57 [Puyopuyo]It's true.
05:51:01 [Puyopuyo]But there will be more for us.
06:38:49 [gadgetgrl]i really dont' see why the strong reaction to this weeks
06:39:04 [gadgetgrl]er...today's
06:39:48 [Puyopuyo]A webcomic of romance,
06:39:48 [Puyopuyo]sarcasm, math, and language.
06:39:53 [gadgetgrl]i would even consider it a the x axis on my sine wave of love/hate
06:40:17 [Puyopuyo]In many ways, this strip is kind of demonstrative of the slow hate many people have been developing for the comic.
06:40:19 [gadgetgrl]it's the slice of life category
06:40:53 [Puyopuyo]Really Jenn?
06:41:24 [Puyopuyo]I'm kind of scared of your life then...
06:41:49 [Puyopuyo]Or to clarify, I don't think this sort of conversation EVER comes up.
06:43:00 [Puyopuyo]From the bio nerd direction, they understand how breasts work. From the sexually perverse fetishist who DOESN'T understand how breasts work, to stare at a woman and think that, only to be impressed when said woman calls you out...that's very creepy.
06:43:49 [Puyopuyo]I don't know, maybe the joke resonates better with you because the subject matter isn't so underlyingly socially taboo.
06:44:41 [Puyopuyo]I think I'm failing to express myself well as well. I should have gotten more sleep...
06:44:46 [gadgetgrl]the thing is, the joke has been done soooo many times before
06:44:51 [gadgetgrl]in almost the same matter
06:44:53 [gadgetgrl]it's just pointless
06:45:17 [gadgetgrl]it's very creepy..but it's xkcd
06:45:31 [Pipian]That's not an excuse
06:45:43 [gadgetgrl]on the scale of creepy, this isn't as bad as the stalker ones, or unrequited love ones....
06:46:09 [gadgetgrl]but it's not surprising either
06:47:01 [Puyopuyo]I don't think in some ways, it's very surprising. The comic has gone from as bad as "creepy stalker" to "Milking breasts"
06:47:06 [Puyopuyo]It's kind of setting a new bar.
06:47:31 [gadgetgrl]see, creepy stalked is more of a warning of worse things to come, than mentioning breasts
06:48:00 [Puyopuyo]Mentioning breasts isn't what bothers me about the comic.
06:48:34 [Puyopuyo]It's specifically the "Guy sits and stares at woman, woman makes offhand comment about her breasts, punchline is 'SHE READ MY MIND'"
06:48:44 [gadgetgrl]but when you think of movies like the fockers (or some other ben stiller movie) where they mention milking a cat or such...that's almost as bad and mainstream
06:48:56 [gadgetgrl]true...
06:49:05 [gadgetgrl]but we already knew he's mentally off
06:49:09 [Pipian]The real punchline is in the tooltip
06:49:10 [Pipian]i.e.
06:49:11 [Puyopuyo]Who's "he"?
06:49:17 [Pipian]"guys only think about breasts har har"
06:49:30 [Puyopuyo]But that in its own way is somewhat stalkery.
06:49:33 [gadgetgrl]right
06:49:39 [Puyopuyo]I kind of assume stalkers are people who half live in their own ehads.
06:49:53 [Puyopuyo]Concocting some ridiculous fantasy about their target.
06:50:01 [Puyopuyo]And in some ways, this is rather similar.
06:50:02 [gadgetgrl]like milking their breasts
06:50:14 [gadgetgrl]right, so this is on par
06:50:25 [Puyopuyo]With the stalker comics? Yeah, I'll agree with that.
06:50:41 [Puyopuyo]But I think my tolerance of stalker comments has finally expired.
06:50:44 [Puyopuyo]Er, comics.
06:50:48 [gadgetgrl]ah, okay
06:51:01 [gadgetgrl]his other ones, i felt, were much more directed
06:51:15 [gadgetgrl]this is much more...trying to take off of other breast jokes
06:51:17 [gadgetgrl]and failing
06:51:48 [Puyopuyo]That also hurts it.
06:51:53 [Puyopuyo]Because it tries to utilize a mainstream joke...
06:52:05 [Puyopuyo]And in addition to being one of his stalker-style comics, FAILS TO MAKE IT WORK.
06:52:20 [Puyopuyo]So it's just this horribly awkward "why did I read that?" sort of feeling.
06:52:50 [Puyopuyo]And the other thing is that I think the running assumption when Ben Stiller movies are watched is that you're watching a sort of mindless comedy.
06:52:59 [gadgetgrl]besides his data visualizations ones, that's kind of the general sentiment
06:53:10 [gadgetgrl]true...they're supposed to be plain stupid
06:53:12 [Puyopuyo]Whereas XKCD has tried to bill itself as a little more techy, a little more sciencey. Guess that just wasn't working anymore.
06:53:25 [gadgetgrl]he hasn't been techy/sciency for a while now
06:53:31 [Puyopuyo]It's true.
06:53:55 [Puyopuyo]But I think this is a pretty good comic for the people who read it as a techy/sciency comic to reevaluate if it's really worth continuing to read.
06:54:13 [Puyopuyo]...though I am somewhat inclined to check the XKCD forums and see how the "true fans" justify it.
06:55:53 [Pipian]True fans will justify anything
06:56:19 [Pipian]The most vocal ones probably justify it through objectifying women.
06:56:39 [gadgetgrl]omg he's so much like penny arcade wahhahaha
06:56:48 [gadgetgrl]should start that flame war in the forus
06:56:49 [gadgetgrl]forums
06:57:49 [Puyopuyo]I don't think it'll work.
06:58:32 [Puyopuyo]I read the forum comments on the thread...most of them are arguing over who made the first topic for the comic.
06:59:29 [gadgetgrl]:/
06:59:39 [Puyopuyo]...oh, and the other series of comments are "WHY DID HER LEGS VANISH IN PANEL 3?"
06:59:59 [Puyopuyo]Well, back to doing someone else's logic homework.
07:00:39 [Pipian]Night
07:01:40 [Puyopuyo]Night.
07:01:46 [Puyopuyo]* Puyopuyo shrugs.
07:01:47 [gadgetgrl]night
07:02:02 [Puyopuyo]Clearly Jenn, you must suggest a webcomic that makes the channel feel less creeped out.
07:04:10 [gadgetgrl]it has to be a webcomic?
07:04:17 [gadgetgrl]b/c my initial reaction is chi's sweet home :p
07:04:27 [gadgetgrl]phd comic!
07:04:49 [gadgetgrl]http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php
07:05:10 [gadgetgrl]my fav is a few days back...professor trading cards
07:06:36 [Puyopuyo]Ha ha. That's amusing.
13:45:55 [Pipian]Nathan won't appreciate them though!
14:10:53 [nathanbp]Ouch.
15:39:46 [Puyopuyo]!pointer
15:39:46 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-09.html#T15-39-46
16:18:29 [gadgetgrl]!pointer
16:18:29 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-09.html#T16-18-29
16:19:07 [gadgetgrl]ya know, they applied in undergrad too, surprisingly
16:20:00 [Puyopuyo]???
16:20:01 [Pipian-Lab]To an extent, yeah.
16:20:14 [Pipian-Lab]But Nathan is no longer in either so
16:20:25 [Puyopuyo]Oh.
16:20:29 [Puyopuyo]Yes, Nathan is a working man.
16:22:06 [Puyopuyo]...I'm inclined to make a Neil Young song reference, but as Ian's brother is the only one who would get it...
16:23:07 [Pipian-Lab]I'd probably get it anyway
16:24:10 [Puyopuyo]Do you know the song Tonight's the Night?
16:24:28 [Puyopuyo]As I was going to ask if Nathan sung songs as a direct follow up to him being a working man.
16:25:15 [Pipian-Lab]Not off the top of my head
16:28:55 [Puyopuyo]There we go, I suppose.
17:51:53 [Puyopuyo]http://twitpic.com/3xwe6h <- Wow. Nice. Getting the Sony advertising actor to retweet the key.
17:53:42 [Pipian-Lab]Yeah.
17:53:48 [Pipian-Lab]Count down to reprimand
17:54:10 [Puyopuyo]It got taken down immediately.
17:54:25 [Pipian-Lab]Can't say I'm surprised
20:54:18 [Puyopuyo]!pointer
20:54:18 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-09.html#T20-54-18
20:59:12 [Pipian-Lab]Yep
20:59:17 [Pipian-Lab]Exciting stuff since you left
21:01:21 [Puyopuyo]Indeed.
22:35:59 [Puyopuyo]Hrm. I think AIM died on me.
22:36:16 [gadgetgrl]you're back according to mine
22:36:34 [Puyopuyo]Yeah, no sooner do I complain than I respawn.
22:37:03 [Puyopuyo]Oh COME ON.
22:37:46 [Puyopuyo]Have a fun article: http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2011/02/super-nintendo-snes-games-that-pushed-the-limits-graphics-soun.html
23:32:52 [Puyopuyo]....son of a.
23:33:12 [Puyopuyo]Ugh, gotta fucking find the right package for my new graphics card to get Debian to work in graphical mode again.