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| 00:35:56 [Pipian] | MTA to be shut down 8 hours before 39mph winds are to arrive | 
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| 00:36:07 [Pipian] | No service starting late Saturday afternoon through Monday morning | 
| 00:36:26 [Pipian] | Rockaway, Coney Island, Battery Park City may see 6 feet of flood water | 
| 00:39:51 [nathanbp] | well that sounds like a load of fun :( | 
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| 17:45:57 [Pipian] | So I finished looting Borders's corpse yesterday | 
| 17:48:33 [nathanbp|work] | oh | 
| 17:48:36 [nathanbp|work] | get anything good? | 
| 17:48:37 [Pipian] | MTA shuts down noon on Saturday | 
| 17:48:48 [Pipian] | And I already got most of what I wanted | 
| 17:48:53 [nathanbp|work] | really? what a bunch of wimps :P | 
| 17:48:54 [Pipian] | Yesterday was just to mop up some CD box sets | 
| 17:49:03 [nathanbp|work] | I guess I won't be sailing Saturday afternoon | 
| 17:49:16 [Pipian] | (Previously I got a bunch of CDs, but no books) | 
| 17:49:25 [Pipian] | I also picked up three books that looked interesting | 
| 17:49:30 [Pipian] | No really good CS books per se | 
| 17:49:53 [Pipian] | And I didn't really look closely at the manga since there's nothing I'm in need of (Yotsuba, SZS and such haven't come out for a while) | 
| 17:51:17 [Pipian] | Tappan Zee and George Washington bridges also shut at noon | 
| 18:17:07 [nathanbp|work] | oh wow, noon saturday? | 
| 18:19:21 [Pipian] | Yes | 
| 18:20:44 [nathanbp|work] | what's your source for that? | 
| 18:22:01 [Pipian] | Okay | 
| 18:22:04 [Pipian] | Maybe not at noon | 
| 18:22:11 [Pipian] | But iff winds exceed 60MPH | 
| 18:22:11 [Pipian] | http://www.breakingnews.com/item/ahBicmVha2luZ25ld3Mtd3d3cg0LEgRTZWVkGLycnAQM/2011/08/26/ny-governor-cuomo-orders-nyc-bridges-to-shut-down-if-winds-exceed-60-mph-including-the-george-washington-and-tappan-zee-bridges-reuters | 
| 18:22:18 [nathanbp|work] | ok | 
| 18:22:46 [Pipian] | Also | 
| 18:22:49 [Pipian] | for New Yorkers | 
| 18:22:54 [Pipian] | Mandatory evac for low | 
| 18:22:54 [Pipian] | - | 
| 18:22:56 [Pipian] | lying areas | 
| 18:22:57 [Pipian] | http://twitter.com/#!/NYTMetro/status/107148829375213569 | 
| 18:22:58 [Sacchi] | |
| 18:24:02 [Pipian] | This includes Battery Park, Far Rockaway, and Coney Island | 
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| 19:35:33 [AChes] | !pointer | 
| 19:35:33 [Sacchi] | http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-08-26.html#T19-35-33 | 
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| 21:28:47 [AChes] | so anyone have good advice for buying internet access? | 
| 21:30:38 [nathanbp|work] | ?? | 
| 21:30:40 [nathanbp|work] | !pointer | 
| 21:30:41 [Sacchi] | http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-08-26.html#T21-30-40 | 
| 21:31:21 [nathanbp|work] | Get FIOS? | 
| 21:32:46 [AChes] | It seems like my options are TWC and ATT, do you know if uverse is like fios? | 
| 21:35:14 [AChes] | also is fios worth it if the nominal speeds are the same as cable? | 
| 21:36:04 [Pipian] | Uverse is like FIOS from my tangential knowledge of the subject | 
| 21:36:49 [Pipian] | Neither has Comcast does it? | 
| 21:36:56 [nathanbp|work] | Pretty sure Uverse is not like FIOS | 
| 21:37:46 [nathanbp|work] | yeah Uverse is fiber to somewhere closeish to you | 
| 21:37:48 [nathanbp|work] | and then DSL to you | 
| 21:37:57 [nathanbp|work] | FIOS is fiber to your house | 
| 21:38:15 [nathanbp|work] | I'd say FIOS is worth it as you're more likely to actually get the nominal speeds | 
| 21:38:41 [nathanbp|work] | If you can't get FIOS then which is better probably varies locally | 
| 21:39:23 [nathanbp|work] | and has more to do with what kind of service you can actually get from your ISP (meaning do they suck at fixing things or not) | 
| 21:40:51 [AChes] | yeah I think I end up with cable, mostly because ATT seems to be a pain for my folks to deal with | 
| 21:42:56 [Pipian] | nathanbp: I thought it was the other way around | 
| 21:43:02 [Pipian] | One is to the curb, one is to the node | 
| 21:43:48 [Pipian] | Uverse is Fiber to the Neighborhood, with Fiber to the Premises in some places | 
| 21:44:31 [Pipian] | FiOS is to the home, yes. | 
| 21:44:57 [Pipian] | U-verse is IPTV | 
| 21:45:03 [Pipian] | FiOS is not | 
| 21:45:06 [Pipian] | (QAM) | 
| 21:45:11 [Pipian] | In case that matters for you | 
| 21:46:18 [AChes] | I wasn't planning on getting TV so I don't think so | 
| 21:47:32 [AChes] | I should see if i can figure out where my node would be, uverse might be worth if if it's realy close, I suppose I should measure the currnt one through TWC too | 
| 21:47:46 [Pipian] | Well | 
| 21:47:50 [Pipian] | It's still ADSL for the last mile | 
| 21:47:58 [Pipian] | Unless you're in one of the FTTP neighborhoods | 
| 21:48:10 [Pipian] | Ultimately | 
| 21:48:23 [Pipian] | Your best choice is probably going to be based on provider rather than "is it FTTP or FTTN" | 
| 21:49:04 [Pipian] | e.g. What are each provider's caps and service available /in your area/ | 
| 21:49:33 [AChes] | yeah I should see if there are caps but they really want to bury that information | 
| 21:49:50 [Pipian] | And also what their network management info is. | 
| 21:50:04 [Pipian] | e.g. Comcast and torrents (although I hear that's less of a problem with Comcast these days) | 
| 21:51:16 [Pipian] | You can usually do this by trolling places like DSLReports | 
| 21:51:27 [Pipian] | You'll always hear bad stories and good stories | 
| 21:51:30 [Pipian] | But you can get a good feel | 
| 21:52:54 [AChes] | I was dreading that answer, but it's probably right | 
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