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| 03:05:26 [gadgetgrl] | !pointer |
| 03:05:27 [Sacchi] | http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2012-02-03.html#T3-5-26 |
| 03:09:48 [gadgetgrl] | two things: gah, i should have never heard about jellyfish princess dvds |
| 03:10:04 [gadgetgrl] | : pax prime is a possibility, but i will know more in a month or so hopefully? |
| 03:10:21 [gadgetgrl] | if not, my house is probably available for you guys (but probably not friends) |
| 03:10:32 [gadgetgrl] | (of yours) |
| 03:12:00 [gadgetgrl] | (maybe one or two) |
| 03:12:19 [gadgetgrl] | i have space for 2 in my room for pax east right now |
| 03:12:24 [gadgetgrl] | (allie can't make it) |
| 03:12:33 [Puyopuyo] | So just you and Wally? |
| 03:12:50 [gadgetgrl] | right now |
| 03:12:57 [Pipian] | I need to buy Saturday tickets |
| 03:12:59 [Pipian] | but |
| 03:13:00 [Pipian] | so lazy |
| 03:13:03 [gadgetgrl] | heh |
| 03:13:24 [gadgetgrl] | you guys are the first to hear about the room opening..i might open it to a few more |
| 03:13:32 [gadgetgrl] | before considering consolidating or whatnot |
| 03:14:02 [Pipian] | What you think I don't plan on just blowing my bike tire out by biking cross town again? |
| 03:14:07 [Pipian] | Because that's totally what I plan on doing |
| 03:15:18 [Puyopuyo] | You should get Phillip's bike. |
| 03:15:24 [Pipian] | psht |
| 03:15:27 [Pipian] | I got my own |
| 03:15:30 [Pipian] | Unlike his |
| 03:15:33 [Pipian] | Mine works and is fine |
| 03:15:38 [Pipian] | It could probably stand to be cleaned up |
| 03:15:44 [Pipian] | So that the brakes don't squeal |
| 03:15:47 [Pipian] | But otherwise it's fine |
| 03:15:49 [Puyopuyo] | But his is legendary! |
| 03:15:56 [Pipian] | You know it |
| 03:16:27 [gadgetgrl] | is it lengen---dary? |
| 03:16:40 [gadgetgrl] | (been watching too much "how i met your mother" in the bg) |
| 03:16:54 [Puyopuyo] | Oh, Jenn, you apparently have NEVER friended me on the 3DS. |
| 03:17:01 [gadgetgrl] | oh? |
| 03:17:03 [Puyopuyo] | Yeah. |
| 03:17:13 [gadgetgrl] | will have to do so |
| 03:17:15 [Puyopuyo] | My friends list is all "MAKE SURE JENN HAS YOUR FRIEND CODE!" |
| 03:17:18 [gadgetgrl] | lol |
| 03:17:18 [Pipian] | I don't think I have either |
| 03:17:34 [Pipian] | Instead I have a bunch of people who send me ponies in that note thing |
| 03:17:39 [gadgetgrl] | lol |
| 03:17:41 [Pipian] | Which I haven't logged in to see in forever |
| 03:17:45 [gadgetgrl] | i haven't used the note thing yet |
| 03:17:52 [Pipian] | Or, for that matter, to play Mario Kart |
| 03:17:53 [Pipian] | gosh |
| 03:17:55 [Pipian] | I'm slipping |
| 03:18:02 [Pipian] | I should probably charge it huh |
| 03:18:12 [gadgetgrl] | i still need to get that |
| 03:18:18 [gadgetgrl] | and plug in mine >.> |
| 03:19:07 [Pipian] | Just as I need to get Mario 3D Land |
| 03:21:14 [gadgetgrl] | i think the phrase that sums that game up for me is, "it gets better" |
| 03:28:16 [Puyopuyo] | It does. |
| 03:28:28 [Puyopuyo] | It starts really mediocre, but gets quite a bit better later on. |
| 03:32:27 [gadgetgrl] | off topic: anyone know a good html5/javascript programmer willing to work on contract for mid-feb to mid-april? |
| 03:32:34 [gadgetgrl] | i need one for thesis >.> |
| 03:32:50 [gadgetgrl] | preferably with experience/interest in games |
| 03:33:05 [Puyopuyo] | ...I'm inclined to not recommend my friends because they are standard comp-sci assholes, but they're talented. I'll inquire if they'd be interested. |
| 03:34:34 [Pipian] | Hah well |
| 03:34:42 [Pipian] | If I had time :hah: |
| 03:34:59 [Pipian] | I am doing some nifty semi-HTML 5 stuff now |
| 03:35:07 [Pipian] | Except it has nothing to do with the <canvas> tag |
| 03:35:13 [Pipian] | Which I have a sneaking suspicion you'll need |
| 03:36:29 [gadgetgrl] | yeah, i do need that :/ |
| 03:36:41 [gadgetgrl] | i can deal with assholery if they actually get stuff done |
| 03:37:05 [Pipian] | <canvas> is not going to be something you'll find an average JS programmer to handle |
| 03:37:10 [gadgetgrl] | i know :/ |
| 03:37:16 [gadgetgrl] | tell me about it, it's not my ideal situation |
| 03:37:21 [Puyopuyo] | I'll ask then. |
| 03:37:24 [Pipian] | But I'll inquire around. |
| 03:37:28 [gadgetgrl] | but i'm working partially with my lab, hence being able to offer contract-pay |
| 03:37:30 [gadgetgrl] | and not just credit |
| 03:37:35 [gadgetgrl] | cool, thanks! |
| 03:37:37 [Pipian] | Not that being from Boston helps matters |
| 03:37:48 [gadgetgrl] | i'm okay with remote if they can deliver |
| 03:38:03 [gadgetgrl] | and are okay with skype or other chat formats |
| 03:38:32 [Pipian] | I dunno |
| 03:38:53 [Pipian] | From my experience it's going to be a fuckton easier to deliver if they can talk to you and demo in person |
| 03:39:03 [Pipian] | From a software engineering perspective |
| 03:39:08 [gadgetgrl] | i agree |
| 03:39:11 [gadgetgrl] | but i'll take what i can |
| 03:40:03 [gadgetgrl] | we have someone in person now...i'd rather have a remote person |
| 03:40:20 [gadgetgrl] | if it means i actually have something by april |
| 03:40:46 [Puyopuyo] | Your person is not very reliable? |
| 03:40:58 [gadgetgrl] | we're overdue |
| 03:41:00 [gadgetgrl] | by a lot |
| 03:41:11 [gadgetgrl] | and it has yet to have game elements implemented |
| 03:41:28 [gadgetgrl] | luckily this is not effecting my project yet |
| 03:41:34 [gadgetgrl] | (thesis) |
| 03:41:42 [gadgetgrl] | but it is effecting the other project it's being created for |
| 03:41:58 [gadgetgrl] | this doesn't leave this chat room, btw |
| 03:44:26 [Puyopuyo] | "I have a friend who is overdue on her project because one of her partners sucks!" |
| 03:45:11 [Puyopuyo] | >_> Not exactly an uncommon scenario. Though given that it's in the logs, probably preferable that we don't put names on today's log. |
| 03:46:25 [Pipian] | I can add a robots.txt block |
| 03:47:16 [gadgetgrl] | no, that was last semester |
| 03:47:39 [gadgetgrl] | eh, more that friends you talk to don't hear about it |
| 03:52:49 [Pipian] | Oh hey |
| 03:53:06 [Pipian] | Boston is getting that Ghibli thing |
| 03:53:08 [Pipian] | thanks MFA |
| 03:54:45 [Pipian] | It'd allow me to finish up the ones I need to see (Kiki's, Castle in the Sky, Nausicaa) |
| 03:56:27 [Puyopuyo] | Yeah, I'll pass on too many personal details. |
| 03:56:32 [Puyopuyo] | Business is business after all |
| 03:58:21 [gadgetgrl] | i missed nausicaa when it went through the ifc this winter :/ |
| 03:58:37 [gadgetgrl] | that an the yamadas the only two i've missed |
| 03:58:45 [gadgetgrl] | (thanks, Sam!) |
| 04:01:28 [Pipian] | Well I have to go tomorrow or I'll miss out on Kiki's |
| 04:01:35 [Pipian] | (I'll skip Howl's) |
| 04:01:43 [Pipian] | (So it goes) |
| 04:05:25 [gadgetgrl] | no, not howl's! |
| 04:05:34 [gadgetgrl] | it happens though |
| 04:06:08 [Pipian] | Well |
| 04:06:10 [Pipian] | It started on the first |
| 04:06:18 [Pipian] | And Howl's happens to be the first one tomorrow |
| 04:06:22 [Pipian] | Which means I'd miss it anyway |
| 04:09:00 [gadgetgrl] | makes sense |
| 04:09:04 [gadgetgrl] | are they all subbed? |
| 04:35:17 [Puyopuyo] | I'm being asked about the nature of the programming task. |
| 04:45:10 [gadgetgrl] | 2d, dungeon crawler, with a splash of math |
| 04:45:19 [gadgetgrl] | (math learning) |
| 04:57:52 [nathanbp] | hey there's backlog to read |
| 04:59:44 [nathanbp] | Jenn you haven't seen Nausicaa?! |
| 05:04:14 [nathanbp] | I'm afraid the only HTML 5/Javascript person I know is myself, and while I have been wanting to learn some more about the canvas tag I dunno how much time I'd have to write things >_> |
| 05:27:29 [gadgetgrl] | nope, haven't seen it |
| 05:28:01 [gadgetgrl] | yeah, that's the situation we're getting into a lot |
| 05:29:11 [Pipian] | I'll nose around upstairs |
| 05:29:29 [Pipian] | I mean it is the W3C. If one of them doesn't know a guy, well |
| 05:30:30 [gadgetgrl] | what are our universities coming to? |
| 05:31:46 [Pipian] | Not getting me in the position to really interact with those who hack with <canvas>. That's what. |
| 05:31:55 [Pipian] | I'm certain some MIT students do. |
| 05:32:02 [Pipian] | I just don't know them |
| 05:32:58 [nathanbp] | do people really do games with canvas vs. with absolute positioning of divs? |
| 05:33:28 [nathanbp] | seems like positioning images would be easier... |
| 05:33:28 [Pipian] | nathanbp: If you need to do complex sprite stuff (e.g. Mode 7 crap) it's nice. |
| 05:34:01 [nathanbp] | it actually supports that kind of stuff? |
| 05:34:10 [Pipian] | If you're doing things like arbitrary paths and such, yeah, you could do SVG, but <canvas> is probably better. |
| 05:34:16 [nathanbp] | I haven't had to pay attention to it behind drawing lines |
| 05:34:41 [Pipian] | <canvas> is basically a canvas you can draw on. |
| 05:35:02 [Pipian] | i.e. you could implement bit-blitting on it |
| 05:35:09 [nathanbp] | yeah but don't you have to redraw the whole thing every frame? |
| 05:35:33 [nathanbp] | vs. just using HTML which basically already has layers? |
| 05:36:04 [Pipian] | Yeah you do have to redraw each frame |
| 05:36:21 [Pipian] | I mean if it's simple spiriting, you're probably better off with just divs |
| 05:36:32 [Pipian] | But any advanced imaging, go with <canvas> |
| 05:37:01 [Pipian] | e.g. |
| 05:37:05 [Pipian] | If you want to do emulation |
| 05:37:47 [Pipian] | http://www.atopon.org/mandel/ |
| 05:37:48 [Sacchi] | Mandelbrot Set in HTML 5 Canvas |
| 05:37:50 [Pipian] | Or Mandelbrot sets |
| 05:39:08 [Pipian] | http://www.effectgames.com/demos/canvascycle/ |
| 05:39:08 [Sacchi] | Canvas Cycle: True 8-bit Color Cycling with HTML5 |
| 05:39:13 [nathanbp] | please don't tell me there's an SNES emulator written entirely in Javascript |
| 05:39:25 [Pipian] | Or reimplementing old ColorCycling images from Monkey Island, etc. |
| 05:39:38 [Pipian] | Well, I had a link to an MSX one |
| 05:39:48 [Pipian] | But I couldn't get it to run in Chrome (it wanted to download instead) |
| 05:40:08 [Pipian] | That said |
| 05:40:09 [nathanbp] | well yeah, but neither of those involve redrawing entire frames |
| 05:40:12 [Pipian] | The answer to your question is |
| 05:40:13 [Pipian] | http://fir.sh/projects/jsnes/ |
| 05:40:13 [Pipian] | Yes |
| 05:40:15 [Sacchi] | JSNES: A JavaScript NES emulator – Ben Firshman |
| 05:40:33 [Pipian] | Although it's actually NES |
| 05:40:34 [Pipian] | So |
| 05:40:37 [Pipian] | Same dif |
| 05:40:43 [Pipian] | (redrawing every frame) |
| 05:41:42 [nathanbp] | yeah, ok |
| 05:41:51 [Pipian] | But in those cases, you want canvas |
| 05:41:53 [nathanbp] | You're supposed to show me these things while I'm at work |
| 05:41:54 [Pipian] | Not div |
| 05:42:00 [Pipian] | Nor SVC |
| 05:42:06 [nathanbp] | so I can claim to be doing research |
| 06:04:14 [gadgetgrl] | you should do research by making my game ;p |
| 06:04:35 [Puyopuyo] | ...wouldn't that belong to the government? |
| 06:05:30 [Puyopuyo] | As I seem to recall Nathan working for a government contractor. |
| 06:11:50 [gadgetgrl] | um...i suppose if on work hours and equipment... |
| 06:13:29 [Puyopuyo] | I thought it was "research" if he did it during work? |
| 06:13:30 [Puyopuyo] | >_> |
| 06:13:37 [gadgetgrl] | true... |
| 06:13:38 [gadgetgrl] | damn |
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| 18:22:52 [nathanbp|work] | Hey the Negima! manga is finally ending soon |
| 18:23:22 [nathanbp|work] | then I'll just have to wait another 2 years for all the volumes to be out in the US |
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