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00:01:07 [qweasdqsfvr] | Anyone want to join jump ultimate stars ? |
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00:05:40 [helpme] | hello does anyone know which action replay i need to connect to this server? |
00:05:50 [helpme] | im going to go out and buy one soon |
00:06:15 [bobmcjr_] | which type of ds do you have? |
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00:07:24 [helpme] | 3ds |
00:07:46 [bobmcjr_] | action replay 3ds then (I think it still works) |
00:08:22 [helpme] | just want to make sure |
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00:11:36 [FleshVortex] | decided to download HexChat for IRC usage |
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00:13:22 [helpme] | does Prof. 9's WfcReplay v0.4.1 codes work for pokemon white? i read in the read me doesnt work for black and white 2 not sure about the first ones |
00:13:36 [bobmcjr_] | Prof9? |
00:13:53 [Prof9] | afaik there are no supported features for BW1 yet so it doesn't matter either way |
00:14:08 [Prof9] | as for whether it works, try it out and tell me |
00:14:11 [Pipian] | BW1 should theoretically support Wi-Fi Club |
00:14:15 [Pipian] | Although I’ve heard that it doesn’t |
00:14:25 [helpme] | on the emulator im in the wifi room already |
00:14:42 [Pipian] | (Possibly because it expects a slightly different version of the GameSpy protocol, and definitely uses a different version of the NATNEG protocol) |
00:14:47 [Prof9] | v0.5 will probably work |
00:14:54 [Prof9] | if v0.4.1 doesn't already |
00:14:57 [FleshVortex] | trying to get my devices to connect to this Xfinity Hotspot |
00:15:08 [FleshVortex] | needless to say, its being stubborn as an old mule |
00:15:16 [helpme] | im still not sure what action replay to use on 3ds though |
00:15:42 [helpme] | theres power save action replay and the normal dsi action replay with 3ds update |
00:16:15 [Pipian] | If I’m reading right |
00:16:16 [bobmcjr_] | you don't want powersave |
00:16:24 [Pipian] | There are no good Action Replays for the 3DS |
00:16:31 [Pipian] | If you’ve been keeping the firmware up to date |
00:16:35 [Pipian] | But definitely not the Powersave |
00:16:41 [helpme] | just need one to connect to this server |
00:17:06 [helpme] | and hope the code works on bw1 |
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00:18:33 [helpme] | so i should get the normal action replay then? |
00:18:40 [bobmcjr_] | umm no |
00:19:19 [bobmcjr_] | the last update for the action replay was for firmware 6.X, and because they initially blocked flashcarts in 7.X, I'm assuming the action replay was blocked too |
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00:20:48 [bobmcjr_] | tldr; no action replay will work on your 3ds. You need a flash cart |
00:20:59 [helpme] | ohh |
00:21:23 [helpme] | flash cart will still allow retail game to join the server? |
00:21:52 [bobmcjr_] | No. You'll have to use a rom (unless you're using a DS Phat/Lite) |
00:22:54 [bobmcjr_] | The only way to play that online is with a DS Phat/Lite/i |
00:23:01 [bobmcjr_] | (a real cart) |
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00:27:40 [helpme] | not sure what you mean with ds lite |
00:28:03 [helpme] | do you mean i can use action replay on the ds lite to connect to the server with a retail card? |
00:28:23 [bobmcjr_] | yes |
00:28:40 [bobmcjr_] | If you use an action replay on a DS Lite or a DS Original/Phat, it will definitely work |
00:28:51 [bobmcjr_] | (the action replay, not neccessarily the code) |
00:29:00 [helpme] | ok then imma go buy the ds action replay and go borrow my friends ds lite lol hopefully everything works |
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00:33:19 [Marusame] | im trying to put the wii online no ssl ocarina code in geckocodes.org but it wont let me select it, says its not a code |
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00:34:52 [Marusame] | anyone have a .gct for mario kart wii that has the online code? i cannot seem to use this ocarina code at all even though it was made for ocarina usb loaders |
00:35:38 [Videoman87] | I haven't been able to get the code to work at all either. I just use brainslug for the moment. |
00:36:11 [Marusame] | i dont have an actual disc of mario cart so i have to use a .gct code which i just recently figured out how to do |
00:36:40 [Videoman87] | Well if you want to try it....first which loader do you use? |
00:37:07 [Marusame] | CFG v70r65 |
00:37:32 [Marusame] | i was able to do cheats from geckocodes.org |
00:37:41 [Videoman87] | ahh I don't use that one |
00:37:56 [Marusame] | but that website wont let me convert it, it says its not a code |
00:38:58 [Marusame] | http://www.geckocodes.org/?c=RMCE01 the normal gct converter works you add the codes before hand then you select the boxes but some of the codes just bring up the edit code window when you attempt to check the box |
00:38:59 [Sacchi] | Codes: Mario Kart Wii [RMCE01] (NTSC-US) at GeckoCodes.org - WiiRD Code Database |
00:39:20 [Videoman87] | ok here is another method let me get the app link |
00:39:23 [bobmcjr_] | @ToadKing I sent more NoSSL patches |
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00:45:55 [Videoman87] | not sure if my last message made it though, connection burped I think anyway try this http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/CheatManager to generate your gct code |
00:45:56 [Sacchi] | CheatManager - WiiBrew |
00:46:34 [DJPlace] | back |
00:46:48 [DJPlace] | let's see if using this thing helps |
00:48:12 [Marusame] | testing now |
00:50:33 [Marusame] | oooh actually sees the codes an di can enable it |
00:50:43 [Videoman87] | :) |
00:50:45 [Marusame] | wiicm just died |
00:50:51 [Marusame] | when ever i tried it |
00:51:50 [Videoman87] | you might also like http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Code_Downloader |
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00:51:51 [Sacchi] | Code Downloader - WiiBrew |
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00:52:03 [bobmcjr_] | !stat |
00:52:03 [Sacchi] | 'mprimeds', 'dqmonjoker2ds', 'syachi2ds' |
00:52:16 [Marusame] | i think i have code downloader but this is the http://save-nintendo-wifi.com/wii-nossl-ocarina.txt thing |
00:52:40 [Videoman87] | allows you to download codes directly to the wii and enable/diable with cheat manager |
00:53:21 [Videoman87] | ah ok, and I knew what you code you were trying to use |
00:53:57 [bobmcjr_] | !stat |
00:53:57 [Sacchi] | 'mprimeds', 'dqmonjoker2ds', 'syachi2ds', 'madeinoreds' |
00:54:05 [bobmcjr_] | !stat madeinoreds |
00:54:05 [Sacchi] | madeinoreds has 1 player. |
00:54:10 [Marusame] | got my dns changed on the wii, did the offline dns changer |
00:54:26 [Marusame] | then im trying to use this code so mario kart can work |
00:56:10 [Videoman87] | I hope it works for you, I coudln't get the code to work with any games I tried. Brainslug worked. If you can't get the code to work, I suggest getting Wiimm's patcher and patching your game directly |
00:58:19 [Marusame] | brainslug wont work for usb games will it? |
00:59:19 [Videoman87] | nope |
00:59:26 [Videoman87] | it is disc only |
00:59:47 [Marusame] | god a different error this time |
00:59:53 [Videoman87] | if the code doesn't work for you, your only other option at the moment is wiimm's patcher |
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01:00:02 [Videoman87] | which one? |
01:00:10 [Marusame] | error code 60000 |
01:00:18 [Videoman87] | ok that means your profile is not on the server |
01:00:20 [Floober] | Evening :P |
01:00:34 [bobmcjr_] | Animal Crossing Wild World anyone? |
01:00:50 [Videoman87] | so you either have to use the profile extractor or clear your game save and start anew |
01:00:54 [Floober] | Definitely when I get home |
01:01:14 [Marusame] | oh so erase my liscense |
01:01:36 [Marusame] | im going to use a cheat to unlock everything cause.. well id like to use all the characters so a full liscense |
01:01:46 [Marusame] | no other cheats though |
01:02:10 [Videoman87] | http://maschell.de/pidtool.zip that is the extractor |
01:03:00 [Marusame] | nah i just erased it, i only had like an hour on it besides the online i played before it went offline |
01:03:04 [SrDragoon] | Ok, I can confirm that Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2 works for matchmaking (Battles) |
01:03:17 [Videoman87] | ahh well not important then heh |
01:03:25 [Marusame] | ooh it connected |
01:03:36 [Videoman87] | yes it should work fine now |
01:03:48 [Videoman87] | You will have a new friend code |
01:03:49 [SrDragoon] | I just fought my team on Desmume with my retail cart team .. obviously the retail cart won ;) |
01:04:35 [DJPlace] | this better work |
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01:05:12 [Pipian] | Videoman87: So we’ve fixed the “you have to delete your Wii save” bug? |
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01:05:23 [DJPlace] | just can't get my copy of sonic and sega all stars racing to copy to my laptop |
01:05:37 [Marusame] | searching for opponents... |
01:05:38 [Pipian] | We should add that to the Wiki if so |
01:06:14 [Marusame] | well i had to delete my save but thats fine, only one that will bum me out is the smash bros brawl one |
01:07:00 [Videoman87] | Not a bug per se, but there is a app to extract your friendcode/profile and upload it. That I posted earlier. It doesn't work for all games but it does work for a few. Mario kart, Animalcrossings and a few others |
01:07:27 [Videoman87] | I think it already is, at least one of the Wiki's |
01:07:33 [Marusame] | ooh found a game |
01:07:47 [Pipian] | Videoman87: I’ll add it to https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki |
01:08:07 [Videoman87] | http://forum.wii-homebrew.com/board42-kreativitaet/mkw-server-project-english/51831-wiipid-extractor/#post592245 the original forum link |
01:08:12 [Sacchi] | Wiipid extractor - MKW-Server Project (English) - Wii-Homebrew.com Forum |
01:08:29 [BarronWaffles|IsSleeping] | CFG USB loader? |
01:08:37 [Marusame] | ya |
01:08:43 [BarronWaffles|IsSleeping] | I'll check |
01:08:55 [BarronWaffles|IsSleeping] | Might be similar to GX |
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01:09:45 [Nagato] | the problem with that is |
01:09:50 [Nagato] | won't it only work for wiimm's server? |
01:09:57 [Nagato] | it won't do you any good for ours |
01:09:59 [BarronWaffles] | Ok, here is a basic guide |
01:10:05 [BarronWaffles] | http://wii.quintonmoran.com/how-to/use-ocarina-codes |
01:10:16 [BarronWaffles] | I'll upload a sample of something I used |
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01:10:49 [Videoman87] | http://wiki.tockdom.com/wiki/Wiimmfi_Project Ok at the bottom it talks about old profiles etc that is the wiki I was thinking of |
01:10:52 [Sacchi] | Wiimmfi Project - Custom Mario Kart |
01:11:01 [Marusame] | i did a race in mario kart wii |
01:11:37 [Pipian] | Do we have a place to upload extracted pids? |
01:11:38 [Marusame] | so i am running cfg the latest version with an gct created by cheat manager v.3 with that green dragon |
01:11:40 [DJPlace] | nice |
01:12:03 [Videoman87] | I think they are uploaded to wiimm's sever |
01:12:07 [Videoman87] | automatically |
01:12:27 [Pipian] | Well that’s not helpful for this effort :v |
01:12:56 [Videoman87] | which effort is that? |
01:13:05 [Videoman87] | A different sever I asume? |
01:13:06 [Marusame] | would be nice if all the geckocodes where updated with a wii no ssl bit for all teh wii online games |
01:13:15 [Pipian] | But http://ninrankings.org/getdata.php is everything I think |
01:13:22 [Nagato] | Videoman87, you're in the channel for altwfc. we have nothing to do with wiimm's server |
01:13:36 [DJPlace] | now i can test brawl |
01:13:49 [einstein95] | Videoman87: I wonder what one person with a http sniffer could do |
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01:14:20 [BarronWaffles] | http://pastebin.com/U4UNeTgP |
01:14:20 [Sacchi] | example - R4EE01.txt - Pastebin.com |
01:14:29 [DJPlace] | how many unoffical severs do we have atm? |
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01:14:35 [Videoman87] | Hard to say, we all sniffed packets to get where we are at the moment :) |
01:14:54 [BarronWaffles] | That was the file I had in my text codes folder |
01:15:08 [BarronWaffles] | CFG has the same function |
01:15:32 [Pipian] | DJPlace: Besides test servers? |
01:15:37 [Pipian] | I think there are only two real efforts |
01:15:44 [Pipian] | altwfc and wiimm |
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01:15:58 [Pipian] | I mean I’ve done some stuff on my own |
01:16:03 [Pipian] | But that’s just for testing purposes |
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01:16:07 [DJPlace] | what games have been tested on altwfc? |
01:16:11 [Pipian] | And not for “real consumption" |
01:16:14 [Marusame] | one thing to note is i had to rename the gct file that cheat manager v0.3 created to the games code like RMCE01.gct |
01:16:16 [Pipian] | DJPlace: quite a few |
01:16:25 [DJPlace] | nice |
01:16:36 [Pipian] | !save compatibility https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki/Compatibility |
01:16:36 [Sacchi] | Saved link 'compatibility' |
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01:18:23 [Pipian] | In addition, the following games have DLC that works |
01:18:26 [Pipian] | !save dlc https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki/Nintendo-DS-Download-Content |
01:18:26 [Sacchi] | Saved link 'dlc' |
01:18:48 [Marusame] | so i have gotten it to work on usb cfg 70r65 using a text file i got from geckocodes.org i added in the no ssl code, threw that in /textcodes so the cheat manager v.03 can see it created the gct went BACK to the sd card and renamed the file to teh proper game title RMCE01.gct |
01:19:20 [BarronWaffles] | It might also have a text code loader |
01:19:39 [Marusame] | then you press B in the launcher, then 1 and turn on ocarina cheats and just launch.. thats how i got mine to work |
01:19:58 [Marusame] | cfg needs it to be the game name as the file name |
01:21:39 [Videoman87] | they all do as far as I know |
01:22:09 [Videoman87] | well cheat manager doesn't care, if the title code is in the txt file |
01:22:15 [Videoman87] | and will rename it |
01:23:13 [Marusame] | heh ya i noticed |
01:23:16 [Videoman87] | or rather the created .gct file will have the proper name in it. But like you said renaming works well :) |
01:23:42 [Marusame] | just mean si have to toss the sd card to my pc an extra time |
01:23:59 [BarronWaffles] | ftpii helps |
01:24:06 [BarronWaffles] | I think that's what it's called? |
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01:24:42 [DJPlace] | think i messed up getting castlevania online... |
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01:25:42 [Marusame] | oohhh i think it wont let me do this one code cause it has extra info in the thing.. so i gotta go back and delete the added info in these cheat codes for cheat manager v0.3 |
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01:26:21 [Floober364] | back :P |
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01:27:10 [Marusame] | also i found out that its renaming the file i assume by the first line so ill just make the first line RMCE01 |
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01:30:20 [Marusame] | ya making the first line of the text file for cheat manager v0.3 seems to use that as the filename excluding the gct. so putting RMCE01 made a RMCE01.gct file |
01:30:37 [DJPlace] | oh i can use Ocarina Code on dolphin? |
01:30:44 [DJPlace] | to try out the severs? sweet? |
01:40:18 [bobmcjr] | Do not forget the dns |
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01:45:21 [Marusame] | ya very bizzar how they are using the dns |
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01:45:44 [helpme] | hello |
01:46:06 [Marusame] | woo online, full liscense card, all unlocks, ready to go |
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01:49:56 [helpme] | wont be able to get that ds lite until 2moro oh well i'll come back and tell you guys if it works hopefully prof 9 has more codes for Wfc Replay by then. thanks for all the info guys cya around. |
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01:52:37 [Marusame] | im in mario kart wii now |
01:52:42 [Marusame] | waiting for opponents |
01:52:46 [Marusame] | also recording |
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01:56:55 [hackov94] | hola |
01:58:01 [hackov94] | se puede usar call of duty modern warfare 3 defiance ds o aun no? |
01:58:37 [DJPlace] | omg.... |
01:58:44 [DJPlace] | screw my burner |
01:59:26 [DJPlace] | i'm about to rage!! |
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02:04:52 [einstein95] | hackov94_2: (Usando google) Ellos usan un servidor personalizado que no se replican. |
02:05:21 [Marusame] | anyway to see if anyone is playing online from a website using this server? |
02:05:33 [bobmcjr_] | !stat |
02:05:34 [Sacchi] | 'smashbrosxwii', 'mariokartwii' |
02:05:49 [bobmcjr_] | !dlc |
02:05:57 [bobmcjr_] | dlc |
02:06:14 [einstein95] | !link dlc |
02:06:14 [Sacchi] | https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki/Nintendo-DS-Download-Content |
02:06:25 [BarronWaffles] | Hi einstein95 |
02:06:30 [einstein95] | o/ |
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02:07:45 [Marusame] | been searching for opponents for awhile on mario kart |
02:08:09 [bobmcjr_] | !stat kart |
02:08:09 [Sacchi] | mariokartwii has 1 player. |
02:08:20 [bobmcjr_] | I'll join |
02:09:35 [Marusame] | i suck apparently so anyone would probably win |
02:09:54 [Marusame] | i use a gamecube controller but hopefully using other characters it will be better |
02:10:16 [Marusame] | !stat kart |
02:10:16 [Sacchi] | mariokartwii has 1 player. |
02:10:19 [Marusame] | neat |
02:11:42 [bobmcjr] | !stat kart |
02:11:42 [Sacchi] | mariokartwii has 2 players. |
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02:26:26 [Team_Fail] | o/ |
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02:29:29 [Marusame] | !stat kart |
02:29:29 [Sacchi] | mariokartwii has 2 players. |
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02:39:49 [bobmcjr_] | Floober: Can you animal crossing wild world yet? |
02:40:45 [BarronWaffles] | I can test in a few minutes if you would like |
02:40:52 [bobmcjr_] | Sure |
02:41:08 [BarronWaffles] | Oh wait, I've gotta do the job/s first in the game eh? |
02:41:11 [BarronWaffles] | Might take a little longer |
02:41:31 [bobmcjr] | You could d/l a save |
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02:55:59 [bobmcjr] | BarronWaffles |
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03:00:16 [BarronWaffles] | Sorry, was... |
03:00:20 [BarronWaffles] | Bathroom. |
03:03:44 [einstein95] | "Bathroom" |
03:06:08 [BarronWaffles] | It was violent. |
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03:19:29 [Floober] | lol |
03:19:34 [Floober] | that was fun to come back to |
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03:34:01 [Marusame] | does it normally take a day or so for uploaded info to be added such as smash bros friend codes to the server? |
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03:48:48 [bobmcjr] | no |
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03:53:45 [ToadKing] | what friend code uploads? |
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03:57:59 [vaguerant] | !stat 2ds |
03:57:59 [Sacchi] | jumpsstars2ds has 1 player. |
03:58:17 [vaguerant] | wow when did the server start supporting 2ds games |
03:58:54 [einstein95] | :V |
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04:05:31 [FinkMac] | !stat |
04:05:32 [Sacchi] | 'mariokartds', 'jumpsstars2ds' |
04:05:37 [FinkMac] | wat |
04:11:02 [vaguerant] | Those are the games that currently have players. |
04:13:44 [FinkMac] | ah |
04:13:50 [FinkMac] | is there a list of games that have servers? |
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04:14:01 [FinkMac] | !help |
04:14:08 [FinkMac] | !seen |
04:20:15 [Sponge] | https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki/Compatibility |
04:20:47 [Sponge] | in many cases games can make use of the 'generic' servers, so even if one isn't listed it can still be tested and might work fine |
04:21:00 [Sponge] | if you're looking for active connection numbers, http://75.127.5.215:9001/ |
04:21:04 [FinkMac] | no animal crossing :( |
04:21:25 [FinkMac] | haven't been keeping up with development lately |
04:21:55 [vaguerant] | That just means nobody's playing it right now. |
04:22:17 [Sponge] | there's 1 person online in City Folk over on wiimmfi lol |
04:25:17 [FinkMac] | wat about Wild World? |
04:25:31 [FinkMac] | really, I'm just wondering if it works |
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04:33:52 [Sponge] | I might be able to try it out later |
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04:38:11 [Naughx] | Hi |
04:38:22 [einstein95] | o/ |
04:39:42 [Sponge] | \o |
04:54:13 [BarronWaffles] | Hey |
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05:16:31 [vaguerant] | Mr. Driller: Drill Spirit Tracks. |
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05:31:21 [ACTL_33] | Hey all. |
05:31:37 [ACTL_33] | Did I just hear that they got a DLC server up for the NWF games that use it, by any chance? |
05:31:43 [ACTL_33] | *NWFC |
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05:33:53 [vaguerant] | https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki/Nintendo-DS-Download-Content |
05:34:09 [einstein95] | "Just" got it up quite some time ago |
05:34:10 [vaguerant] | You should be able to get all this stuff from the server. |
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05:41:31 [vaguerant] | Hmm. |
05:41:43 [vaguerant] | WfcReplay doesn't find any https URLs in Spirit Tracks. |
05:42:33 [vaguerant] | Does it even have wifi? |
05:42:47 [vaguerant] | No logo on the box. |
05:43:01 [vaguerant] | I guess its battle mode is local-only, unlike Hourglass. |
05:43:54 [vaguerant] | "Unlike The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks does not feature Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection multiplayer. However, up to four players can play via DS Download Play, using only one game card, and one game system per player." |
05:46:50 [vaguerant] | Welp. What else looks interesting to test ... |
05:47:32 [vaguerant] | Why is there a game called "Air Wings", what a generic name. |
05:47:55 [vaguerant] | I'm gonna make a driving game and call it "Ground Wheels". |
05:51:25 [vaguerant] | Actually, I don't see a game called that. I wonder if it's a working title for something else or another cancelled game. |
05:52:25 [vaguerant] | There's a game called "Freedom Wings"; no wi-fi but it's a possibility. |
05:56:42 [vaguerant] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Impulse |
05:57:10 [vaguerant] | Could be this. I'll grab it, I guess. I think there was a translation project for this game, wonder if anything came of it. |
05:59:39 [vaguerant] | Translation went nowhere. |
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06:04:38 [einstein95] | I guess they just lacked the impulse to continue |
06:05:29 [vaguerant] | Sorry to jet, but I lack impulse. |
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06:08:55 [einstein95] | 9 out of 10 people agree that 1 out of 10 people will always disagree with the other 9 |
06:10:46 [vaguerant] | That seems like false advertising. |
06:11:01 [vaguerant] | Your client can't just make the claim that you're happy with it. |
06:11:18 [vaguerant] | You might be trying it for the first time and hate it. |
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06:24:33 [vaguerant] | !stat air |
06:24:33 [Sacchi] | airwingsds has 1 player. |
06:24:37 [vaguerant] | Ta-da. |
06:24:44 [vaguerant] | It is Jet Impulse. |
06:25:17 [SanicReducer] | Nice script |
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06:26:04 [vaguerant] | What's the name mean, anyway? |
06:26:15 [vaguerant] | I vote it should be renamed to Syachi. :V |
06:28:53 [vaguerant] | The Jet Impulse menu is largely English, it's not hard to get to the wifi area at all. |
06:30:44 [vaguerant] | Game itself is boring as hell. It seems very sim-y as flight games go, which I don't care about in the least. |
06:35:15 [vaguerant] | I wonder why they dropped the ".0" from "Bomberman 2". |
06:35:32 [vaguerant] | The 2.0 makes sense because Bomberman goes inside a computer or some such junk. |
06:35:55 [einstein95] | Bomberman 3.141592653589793238... |
06:38:17 [vaguerant] | I wonder if "cb2ds" really is Custom Battler Bomberman, the Japanese version of Bomberman 2. |
06:38:37 [vaguerant] | I can't be bothered downloading a Japanese version of a game I already have. |
06:39:46 [vaguerant] | Also, what the hell is "dental2". |
06:40:04 [einstein95] | Dental Simulator 2: Dental Harder |
06:45:03 [vaguerant] | "Figland" sounds interesting. |
06:46:21 [vaguerant] | http://www.siliconera.com/2009/09/29/is-ignitions-next-game-dragons-crown/ |
06:46:21 [Sacchi] | Is Ignition’s Next Game Dragon’s Crown? - Siliconera |
06:46:34 [vaguerant] | "Figland" was filed as a trademark. |
06:48:11 [vaguerant] | Possibly another cancelled game for the list. |
06:49:38 [vaguerant] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_Entertainment#Games_published.2Fdeveloped |
06:49:51 [vaguerant] | They did release a few DS games, I guess it could be one of those ... |
06:51:59 [vaguerant] | Figland was filed in November, 2008, so anything after then. |
06:55:12 [einstein95] | Nostalgia was released at that time |
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07:07:36 [vaguerant] | Mario Party DS mparty1ds rUpE9b |
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07:07:50 [vaguerant] | I wonder if this implies there were plans for more DS Mario Party games. |
07:08:58 [vaguerant] | Also, Mario Party DS has no online play. |
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07:09:38 [coilerr] | hi, quick question is it still possible to access the new servers even if I didnt save my wifi id? |
07:09:48 [einstein95] | Wifi ID? |
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07:10:26 [coilerr] | yh |
07:10:52 [coilerr] | like I had to do it before the 18th of this month but I didnt |
07:11:36 [einstein95] | That was for Wiimm's server. You could save it with software, but that's not necessary for this server |
07:11:47 [coilerr] | oh |
07:13:01 [coilerr] | how is the lag on these servers? better worse than before? |
07:13:02 [vaguerant] | McDonald's DS Crew Development Program DS mcdcrewds 8qTI8b |
07:13:22 [vaguerant] | The same; all the server does is connect you to another player. |
07:13:34 [vaguerant] | After that, it's a matter of the connection with the other player/s. |
07:14:01 [coilerr] | ok , thanks and will project M work? |
07:14:22 [SanicReducer] | <vaguerant> McDonald's DS Crew Development Program DS mcdcrewds 8qTI8b |
07:14:25 [SanicReducer] | wat |
07:14:50 [einstein95] | Project M has been reported working |
07:14:58 [coilerr] | :O |
07:15:05 [coilerr] | that's great |
07:15:10 [vaguerant] | http://au.ign.com/articles/2010/03/22/mcdonalds-japan-using-nintendo-ds-to-train-employees |
07:15:11 [Sacchi] | McDonald's Japan Using Nintendo DS To Train Employees - IGN |
07:15:32 [coilerr] | so all I need to do is change my DNS config and I can ply online thats it? |
07:16:00 [vaguerant] | You need to use Brainslug or the Ocarina code for Wii games, and SSLPatcher or WfcReplay for DS games. |
07:16:04 [coilerr] | oh and install all the lil things |
07:16:10 [SanicReducer] | learn how to fucking read, man |
07:16:28 [coilerr] | ? |
07:16:33 [vaguerant] | All right, be cool. He should have read the guide more closely, but there's no need for abuse. |
07:16:34 [coilerr] | easy dude |
07:16:56 [SanicReducer] | abuse is a strong term, but whateva |
07:17:04 [coilerr] | I read it bt forgot when I wrote |
07:18:02 [SanicReducer] | Possibly stupid question: Have ROMs ever been released of that McDonald's "game"? |
07:18:34 [SanicReducer] | released/dumped/whatever |
07:19:14 [vaguerant] | I just had a look around, I can't find anything about it being released, unfortunately. |
07:19:22 [vaguerant] | I would have liked to have tried it, too. |
07:22:50 [vaguerant] | Nameless Neverland DS nameneverds oL7dO2 |
07:23:05 [vaguerant] | Presumably one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_(company)#DS |
07:23:47 [coilerr] | gz to anybody who did this though , youre great |
07:23:53 [vaguerant] | The Rune Factory games all have their own servers, so not those. |
07:26:30 [vaguerant] | My guess is that it's "Dramatic Dungeon Sakura Taisen", a game which does have online. |
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07:28:01 [coilerr] | As I use a usb loader I need to use the code but how do I need to name it? like the code file |
07:29:26 [vaguerant] | It should match the 6-character ID of the game you want to play. |
07:29:51 [vaguerant] | So Mario Kart Wii (PAL) is RMCP01, if I remember correctly. |
07:30:15 [coilerr] | oh for every game I see thanks |
07:30:33 [vaguerant] | Yeah, for now you need to have a copy of the code for each game you want to use. |
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07:38:13 [soio] | Hi everybody ! |
07:38:34 [einstein95] | Hi Dr. Nick! |
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07:54:19 [vaguerant] | Bah. |
07:54:27 [vaguerant] | Found another game for Prof9 to look at. |
07:54:42 [vaguerant] | That Sakura Taisen game whitescreens with a WfcReplay code enabled. |
07:55:08 [Marusame] | ya i run off a usb loader and i use codes on it |
07:55:27 [Marusame] | pain in the butt though |
08:00:59 [vaguerant] | Hmm. I don't think there's a menu option for wifi, must be a character you need to hassle to play online. |
08:02:02 [vaguerant] | Wait, I think I gound it. |
08:02:26 [vaguerant] | *found |
08:03:24 [vaguerant] | Damn. |
08:03:28 [vaguerant] | !stat sak |
08:03:28 [Sacchi] | sakuraTDDds has 1 player. |
08:03:38 [vaguerant] | It's not "Nameless Neverland". |
08:04:00 [einstein95] | !stat |
08:04:00 [Sacchi] | 'sakuraTDDds', 'mprimeds', 'mariokartds' |
08:04:32 [vaguerant] | Notably, sakuraTDDds doesn't seem to be in aluigi's list. |
08:05:01 [einstein95] | !stat dungeon |
08:05:02 [Sacchi] | sakuraTDDds has 1 player. |
08:05:17 [vaguerant] | Actually, yes it is, but it doesn't have (DS) on the end. |
08:05:24 [vaguerant] | So it got left out of the cropped version. |
08:05:30 [einstein95] | Heh |
08:21:55 [vaguerant] | So that still leaves the question of what Nameless Neverland is. |
08:24:10 [vaguerant] | Egg Monster Hero doesn't seem to have wi-fi from what I can tell, nor does Lufia. |
08:24:24 [vaguerant] | The Rune Factories and Sakura Taisen are all accounted for. |
08:27:13 [einstein95] | Nintendo Sake Test ninsake TpSP5q |
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08:29:43 [vaguerant] | Here's another one missing from the cropped list: RPG tkool DS (DSi) rpgtkooldsi NaGK7x |
08:34:40 [vaguerant] | A couple of the Rune Factory games had names too long too, and are missing from the cropped version. |
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08:48:32 [BarronWaffles] | Looks like Spirit Tracks was local only vaguerant, sadly. |
08:48:49 [vaguerant] | Yeah, I saw that, too. |
08:48:52 [BarronWaffles] | Our rivalry will be contained to the fields of Phantom Hourglass. |
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10:05:51 [vaguerant] | Oh, I should file an issue for that Sakura Taisen game. |
10:12:07 [vaguerant] | Done. |
10:19:08 [BarronWaffles] | Is it possible to use a flashcart as a action replay in regards to retail carts? |
10:19:30 [BarronWaffles] | I've been trying nitrohax, but it doesn't seem to actually apply anything. |
10:20:57 [einstein95] | Apparently there's only NitroHax |
10:21:09 [vaguerant] | NitroHax is the only way I know of. |
10:23:02 [BarronWaffles] | Hmmm |
10:23:14 [BarronWaffles] | The lastest version of it just seems to crash on me also |
10:23:18 [vaguerant] | I assume the Australian Mario Kart DS is the same ROM as Europe, right? |
10:26:32 [Normmatt] | BarronWaffles, your xml/usrcheat.dat need to be less than 2-3mb |
10:30:34 [einstein95] | vaguerant: I don't think anyone's confirmed it as of yet |
10:30:57 [Noir|work] | Normmatt: have the same issues with NitroHax, with a size of some KB. freezes as soon a folder is opened. |
10:30:59 [vaguerant] | Oh. I guess I'll check then. I have a couple of -AUS carts. |
10:31:23 [Noir|work] | there is no AUS dump of mkds |
10:31:37 [Normmatt] | Noir|work, your using xml or usrcheat? |
10:31:46 [Normmatt] | or doesn't that matter? |
10:32:19 [Noir|work] | xml |
10:32:48 [einstein95] | Normmatt: I think it only works with xml |
10:32:50 [einstein95] | One of the following will be loaded automatically if it is found (in order of preference): |
10:32:50 [einstein95] | "cheats.xml" in the current directory |
10:32:50 [einstein95] | "/NitroHax/cheats.xml" |
10:32:50 [einstein95] | "/data/NitroHax/cheats.xml" |
10:32:50 [einstein95] | "/cheats.xml" |
10:33:04 [vaguerant] | OK, Mario Kart DS is the same as the USA ROM. |
10:33:14 [einstein95] | Oh? Interesting |
10:33:31 [Noir|work] | i used something like codelist.xml, when booting nitrohax i could select the xml file |
10:34:24 [Noir|work] | don't have my DS here, maybe BarronWaffles can check if renaming to cheats.xml does the trick for some unknown reason |
10:34:28 [vaguerant] | Same deal for Metroid Prime Hunters, same CRC as USA. |
10:34:55 [vaguerant] | What else we got ... Advance Wars: Dual Strike. |
10:35:52 [vaguerant] | Yep, USA. |
10:35:58 [vaguerant] | This is interesting. |
10:36:01 [BarronWaffles] | I'll give it a try Noir|work |
10:36:06 [einstein95] | You should submit these to No-Intro |
10:36:36 [einstein95] | vaguerant: I know Pokemon Conquest is the same between US and Aus, that was confirmed |
10:36:48 [vaguerant] | Testing NSMB now. |
10:37:30 [vaguerant] | Same as USA. |
10:37:31 [einstein95] | What are you using to dump them? |
10:37:37 [vaguerant] | Wood. |
10:37:55 [vaguerant] | I'm not dumping them this fast, Wood has a CRC calculator. |
10:37:56 [einstein95] | Wifi? |
10:37:59 [einstein95] | Oh |
10:38:03 [vaguerant] | I'm just calculating the CRCs. |
10:38:05 [einstein95] | Heh |
10:38:46 [vaguerant] | Polarium ... |
10:39:02 [BarronWaffles] | Nope, still crashes when navigating into a folder |
10:39:17 [vaguerant] | Same as USA. |
10:40:14 [vaguerant] | Star Fox Command, same as USA. |
10:41:11 [BarronWaffles] | Looks like I'll just import a few action replays |
10:41:44 [vaguerant] | Super Mario 64 DS ... same as USA rev 1. |
10:42:48 [vaguerant] | Yoshi's Touch & Go, same as USA. |
10:43:05 [vaguerant] | That's all my -AUS games. |
10:43:49 [einstein95] | If only you could do that on a 3DS. Looks like I'm going to have to get a preowned DS lite |
10:44:09 [vaguerant] | Why can't you? |
10:44:32 [vaguerant] | How do I submit this info to No-Intro anyway. |
10:44:53 [vaguerant] | And everyone's gonna be p. mad when all the ROMs are "Mario Kart DS (USA, Australia).nds". |
10:44:53 [einstein95] | 3DS and DSi don't work with Wood Dumper |
10:44:58 [vaguerant] | That shit's fucking annoying. |
10:44:59 [einstein95] | :v |
10:45:02 [vaguerant] | Huh, that's a shame. |
10:45:11 [einstein95] | I think it's (USA, Aus) |
10:45:30 [Seru-kun] | Well, they put (Europe) like that |
10:45:38 [Seru-kun] | Australia is likely. |
10:46:05 [einstein95] | vaguerant: I think you email shippa4@hotmail.com |
10:46:34 [einstein95] | "6093 - Pokemon Conquest (USA, Australia) (NDSi Enhanced) [b]" |
10:47:40 [BarronWaffles] | Needs more tags |
10:49:08 [Seru-kun] | Super Street Fighter 2 Hyper Ultra HD Remix (USA, Europe, Australia) (3DSi Enhanced) [b3] |
10:49:20 [Seru-kun] | Whatever |
10:59:15 [Noir|work] | vaguerant, what'S printed on your carts? NTR-XXX-??? |
10:59:44 [vaguerant] | NTR-AMCE-AUS is my Mario Kart. |
11:00:21 [vaguerant] | The Australian market is flooded with imports, I have more -USA and -EUR carts than I do -AUS. |
11:00:38 [vaguerant] | But I'm only checking my -AUS carts obviously. |
11:00:50 [Noir|work] | hm. but i guess it's common knowledge that USA and AUS releases use the same ROMs.. i think giving info to no-intro is useless. if there were different CRCs / different ROMs, they would have been dumped. |
11:01:34 [einstein95] | Noir|work: Occasionally we (aus/nz) get eu versions I believe |
11:03:05 [Noir|work] | There's a Sesame Street Elmos A to the Zoo adventure AUS Dump and a USA Dump, no CRCs listed in the NFOs. the USA rls was nuked, but was never propered. maybe because the AUS-USA is the same aswell |
11:04:58 [Noir|work] | i don't know if aus/nz usually gets EU/USA roms. there are very few AUS releases.. |
11:05:34 [einstein95] | My Brain Training cart is ANDP-AUS, Rhythm Heaven is YLZE-AUS, Chibi Robo is AJBE-AUS, and Lock's Quest is CSPP-AUS |
11:05:39 [Noir|work] | i'm counting 10 AUS releases |
11:06:14 [Noir|work] | including demo dumps |
11:11:09 [Noir|work] | * Noir|work is busy again. |
11:13:36 [vaguerant] | Well anyway, I emailed them my CRCs for AUS games. |
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11:19:01 [vaguerant] | What's the format of cheats.xml expected by NitroHax? |
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11:23:37 [Noir|work] | I used r4cce to create my xml's |
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11:30:40 [vaguerant] | Hmm. Doesn't work for me, either. |
11:30:56 [vaguerant] | Crashes as soon as I open the Mario Kart DS code directory. |
11:37:24 [vaguerant] | Some people suggest dropping down to 0.82. |
11:37:50 [BarronWaffles] | MMm |
11:38:02 [BarronWaffles] | I tried that, it didn't seem to apply any codes |
11:39:51 [vaguerant] | Actually, it stopped crashing now that I gave the database overall a name. |
11:39:56 [vaguerant] | I had it empty before. |
11:41:29 [vaguerant] | I'm actually seeing the same behavior people like Riverbui were talking about on Mario Kart. |
11:41:34 [BarronWaffles] | Oh? |
11:42:00 [vaguerant] | Yeah. "Connecting to Nintendo WFC... Please wait a moment..." |
11:42:10 [vaguerant] | Not getting any further than that so far. |
11:44:13 [BarronWaffles] | Would you pastebin your working cheats list? |
11:44:52 [vaguerant] | Sure thing. |
11:45:08 [BarronWaffles] | Cheers |
11:45:55 [vaguerant] | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QT8KGx9S |
11:46:25 [vaguerant] | Is there a button code to delete your save on Mario Kart or do I need to use a homebrew to delete my save? |
11:46:47 [vaguerant] | Oh. Options > Erase Data. |
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11:49:04 [vaguerant] | Deleted my save, trying to connect again. |
11:49:11 [vaguerant] | That worked fine. |
11:49:27 [vaguerant] | !stat rtds |
11:49:28 [Sacchi] | No one is using a game like "rtds" |
11:49:33 [einstein95] | !stat |
11:49:33 [Sacchi] | 'mariokartwii', 'mprimeds' |
11:49:48 [vaguerant] | Oh. I got disconnected again. :V |
11:49:58 [einstein95] | :V |
11:50:43 [BarronWaffles] | Still seems to crash on browse for me :\ |
11:51:27 [einstein95] | Time to get 5 hours of sleep |
11:51:28 [einstein95] | g'night |
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11:51:39 [vaguerant] | Night. |
11:51:45 [BarronWaffles] | Nightnight |
11:52:40 [vaguerant] | I'm able to get to the search screen, but I'm getting that 30 seconds later disconnect with 84020 from last night. |
11:52:54 [vaguerant] | So I think the server's just broke again. |
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11:55:12 [BarronWaffles] | Ahh |
11:55:21 [BarronWaffles] | It works if you don't have any folders I guess |
11:55:41 [BarronWaffles] | The source is available, might be worth a look |
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12:03:46 [vaguerant] | I predict that Italy will be in here asking about the server being down within the next three hours or so. |
12:04:03 [vaguerant] | Maybe the server should be rebooting on a 12 hour cron job or something. |
12:04:23 [vaguerant] | There's always a long period where Nagato is asleep/away/etc. and the server's just dead until it gets a reboot. |
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12:04:45 [vaguerant] | I think the small number of interrupted games would be trumped by the number of new games it would allow to work. |
12:05:05 [vaguerant] | Even six hours might be good. |
12:05:38 [BarronWaffles] | Mmmm |
12:05:40 [Nagato] | i'm awake |
12:06:36 [Nagato] | is it really broken this time though? there's still traffic visible on the server. what issue are you having? |
12:07:32 [vaguerant] | I seem to get an 84020 about 30 seconds after connecting. Let me try a couple other games before you do anything, though. |
12:07:58 [Nagato] | try something else then please. i'm looking at the server logs now |
12:08:06 [Nagato] | if we could figure out *why* it's not working then that would be nice |
12:09:28 [vaguerant] | OK, first up, Bomberman 2. |
12:09:40 [vaguerant] | Connecting to NWFC... |
12:09:45 [vaguerant] | Connected. |
12:09:46 [Nagato] | so far it looks normal i guess |
12:09:58 [Nagato] | wait |
12:10:04 [Nagato] | i see an issue i think |
12:10:05 [vaguerant] | Just started searching in World. |
12:10:07 [Nagato] | qr isn't responding |
12:10:27 [Nagato] | did you get dc'd? |
12:10:29 [vaguerant] | 85020 error. |
12:10:31 [vaguerant] | Yes. |
12:10:34 [Nagato] | ok |
12:10:36 [Nagato] | this actually helps |
12:10:42 [Nagato] | qr isn't responding for some reason |
12:10:43 [vaguerant] | Awesome. |
12:10:55 [Nagato] | it must be crashed somewhere |
12:11:03 [Nagato] | qr isn't responding to metroid either |
12:11:21 [Nagato] | it's definitely qr that is causing the issues with the server needing to be restarted |
12:11:29 [Nagato] | now the question is... why :? |
12:13:52 [Nagato] | let me see what the last response from qr was... |
12:14:17 [Nagato] | around 7am |
12:19:59 [Nagato] | holy shit this is goign to be really noisy if i leave it running in trace mode for too long |
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12:25:33 [Committee] | great job guys |
12:25:39 [Committee] | thank you for adding retail card support |
12:25:40 [Committee] | :D |
12:27:29 [Nagato] | yeaaah i knew this would not work. trying to get a trace is too difficult :( it's already grown to 12mb in less than a minute. fuck that |
12:27:56 [Nagato] | i guess we can leave it running for a day until it crashes again |
12:28:01 [Nagato] | anyway, server is up again for now |
12:29:07 [Nagato] | hrm... gdb might work |
12:30:07 [vaguerant] | Is the stats page dead? |
12:30:20 [Nagato] | i just killed the server |
12:30:26 [Nagato] | trying to get gdb and stuff setup for python |
12:30:30 [Nagato] | so i can actually debug this properly |
12:30:32 [vaguerant] | Oh, OK. No problem. |
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13:08:59 [Committee] | finally |
13:09:03 [Committee] | mirc |
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13:11:32 [Unica] | hmm |
13:11:59 [Committee] | sorry just happy |
13:12:08 [Committee] | the browser client just kept crashing on me |
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13:16:33 [Prof9] | vaguerant, that Dramatic Dungeon code appears to work for me |
13:16:45 [Prof9] | I just booted it up in No$gba with the code and it didn't crash |
13:16:59 [vaguerant] | Hmm. Let me try something. |
13:18:14 [Prof9] | works in DeSmuME as well |
13:22:30 [Committee] | who's developing the AR part for the retail carts btw? |
13:22:43 [Prof9] | that would be me |
13:23:10 [Normmatt] | btw is there no way to use a fake signed cert for https? |
13:23:36 [Committee] | hello Prof9! |
13:23:44 [Prof9] | hi |
13:23:46 [Committee] | kudos to you man |
13:23:53 [Normmatt] | like does nintendo check that properly |
13:24:00 [Committee] | or rather kudos to you person |
13:24:01 [Committee] | :D |
13:24:33 [Prof9] | I'm not sure anyone checked Normmatt |
13:24:50 [Prof9] | looked at the code for that I mean |
13:24:51 [Committee] | you know the sad part is i have not seen this thing go off, not many people know about altwfc, or at least not the number of people I was expecting |
13:25:06 [Prof9] | well spread the word then |
13:25:09 [Committee] | yap |
13:25:11 [Committee] | believe me I am |
13:25:16 [Committee] | starting with the Dq9 board |
13:26:04 [Prof9] | I think a lot of people know about altwfc but might be waiting until it gets more stable/supports more features |
13:26:09 [Committee] | http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/937281-dragon-quest-ix-sentinels-of-the-starry-skies/69269109 |
13:26:11 [Sacchi] | Save the Wi-Fi DQ9 - Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies Message Board for DS - GameFAQs |
13:26:18 [Committee] | thats me right there, Ned_14 |
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13:26:27 [Committee] | 15 sorry |
13:28:32 [Committee] | well me thinks once the pokemon stuff gets sorted out this thing will take off like a rocket |
13:30:47 [vaguerant] | Prof9: Interference between your code and AKAIO soft reset. |
13:30:53 [Prof9] | huhhh |
13:31:06 [Prof9] | does that happen in other games? |
13:31:23 [vaguerant] | First one so far. |
13:31:38 [Prof9] | why would there be AKAIO code there |
13:31:51 [Committee] | for the soft reset? |
13:32:23 [Prof9] | vaguerant, can you try this one? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5SQYRu8D |
13:32:40 [Prof9] | it's a new compressed code |
13:35:49 [vaguerant] | Sure thing. |
13:35:55 [Unica] | I have a question, who's making those Bypass AR codes? i'd like if someone could make one for FIFA 11 ds. |
13:36:17 [vaguerant] | Prof9 has made a tool which generates them for you. |
13:37:09 [Prof9] | https://github.com/Prof9/wfcreplay/releases |
13:37:10 [Unica] | Where I can get the tool? |
13:37:12 [Committee] | https://github.com/Prof9/wfcreplay/releases |
13:37:15 [Unica] | Oh thank you :) |
13:37:20 [Committee] | instructions here : |
13:37:21 [Committee] | https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki |
13:37:22 [Committee] | LD |
13:37:23 [Committee] | :D |
13:38:22 [Unica] | thx :) |
13:44:21 [vaguerant] | !stat sak |
13:44:21 [Sacchi] | sakuraTDDds has 1 player. |
13:44:31 [vaguerant] | The code works, but it still whitescreens if soft reset is enabled. |
13:44:49 [Prof9] | hm |
13:44:52 [Prof9] | Normmatt? |
13:45:32 [Prof9] | does AKAIO have code around 0x0200036C for Dangerous Dungeon Sakurai Taisen? |
13:49:54 [Prof9] | game boots up fine on my DSTWO with the code enabled, so I'm gonna close the issue |
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13:53:53 [vaguerant] | Yeah, the code works fine, it's not your tool's issue if it clobbers some flash card hacks. |
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14:02:14 [bobmcjr] | !stat |
14:02:14 [Sacchi] | 'mariokartds' |
14:02:19 [bobmcjr] | !stat ds |
14:02:19 [Sacchi] | mariokartds has 7 players. |
14:02:38 [vaguerant] | Just FYI, Prof9, I'm online on MKDS right now on a retail cart with a WfcReplay code, so I think that other issue is unrelated to you. |
14:03:37 [Prof9] | yeah I was pretty sure it was |
14:05:25 [bobmcjr] | !stat ds |
14:05:25 [Sacchi] | mariokartds has 9 players. |
14:05:48 [bobmcjr] | Did matching break again? |
14:06:28 [vaguerant] | It was working a few minutes ago. |
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14:14:53 [alskdkq] | Anyone play Jump Ultimate Stars? |
14:24:19 [alskdkq] | Is there an AR code that deletes wireless profile? |
14:25:59 [Committee] | I dont think you can do that via AR |
14:26:49 [Prof9] | you don't need an AR code for that |
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14:27:47 [Team_Fail] | o/ |
14:27:52 [Prof9] | hey |
14:28:16 [Committee] | all star cast tonight |
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14:36:19 [SonicReducer] | http://i.imgur.com/1zl7f8Q.jpg Pfffft oh lawdy |
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14:44:01 [SrDragoon] | DQ9's DQVC might come from Square Enix |
14:44:25 [SrDragoon] | we'd need to run a packet capture to check |
14:44:50 [Committee] | if Nagato was able to catch the Alcaid 4 DLC then this might mean its just a trigger of a flag as to what items to offer in DQVC |
14:44:59 [Committee] | my opinion only sorry |
14:45:27 [SrDragoon] | I haven't played mine in awhile, so I don't remember what week I stopped |
14:45:33 [Committee] | I think the items are already in game, since there is an AR code to replace stornway item shop with DQVC items |
14:45:47 [SrDragoon] | I'll look for it and give it a try |
14:45:49 [Committee] | same as the seasonal seller in MH |
14:45:51 [Committee] | :D |
14:46:14 [Committee] | i think what youll need to look for is what the server responds to when a query for DQVC comes up, and if thats changeable or editable |
14:46:31 [Committee] | sorry noob coder, I may or may not know what Im talking about, too much time with PBX servers |
14:49:14 [SrDragoon] | did someone make an AR code for it yet? I don't have the rom |
14:50:59 [Committee] | let me get that for you |
14:51:34 [Committee] | STORNWAY ARMOR SHOPS (2 NPCS) = DQVC EXCLUSIVES (All equipment prices remain as they are in DQVC, store becomes normal after loading again without the code on) |
14:51:35 [Committee] | 52389404 440043FC |
14:51:35 [Committee] | 223893D1 00000010 |
14:51:35 [Committee] | E23893E4 00000024 |
14:51:35 [Committee] | 560C560B 560E560D |
14:51:35 [Committee] | 560F560A 320C4E9C |
14:51:35 [Committee] | 320F320D 32753274 |
14:51:37 [Committee] | 30D730D6 3094308C |
14:51:37 [Committee] | FFFFFFFF 00000000 |
14:51:37 [Committee] | D0000000 00000000 |
14:51:37 [Committee] | 52389404 42DC42D9 |
14:51:38 [Committee] | 223893D1 00000010 |
14:51:38 [Committee] | E23893E4 00000024 |
14:51:39 [Committee] | 30923091 32ED320A |
14:51:39 [Committee] | 353A32EC 32EB32EE |
14:51:41 [Committee] | 3F853539 3F863F84 |
14:51:41 [Committee] | 42F73F83 46874405 |
14:51:41 [Committee] | FFFFFFFF 00000000 |
14:51:41 [Committee] | D2000000 00000000 |
14:51:43 [Committee] | sorry flood |
14:52:33 [SrDragoon] | well, that might not work -- we'd need an AR code to convert HTTPS. THis looks like just items only |
14:53:09 [Prof9] | pastebin that shit |
14:53:09 [SrDragoon] | hold on, I do have it afterall |
14:53:38 [Committee] | have what? |
14:53:52 [SrDragoon] | the rom. I didn't see it earlier |
14:54:30 [Committee] | ah perfect |
14:54:33 [Team_Fail] | [08:53.15] <Prof9> pastebin that shit >> Agreed lmao |
14:54:45 [Committee] | im am really sorry about that >.< |
14:54:56 [Committee] | at work, limited to when the bossman aint walking around |
14:55:02 [SrDragoon] | yep, the AR code looks familiar to Joker 2 and Pro |
14:55:04 [Team_Fail] | no, i just know from experience when people flood ircs |
14:55:14 [Team_Fail] | with MUCH more than that |
14:55:25 [Team_Fail] | (The resulting kickban is always fun) |
14:55:44 [Team_Fail] | now to get back to overcoming the limitation in my application |
14:56:02 [Committee] | ah i remember those days |
14:58:39 [Committee] | im good to test though SrDragoon |
14:58:42 [Committee] | let me boot that sucker up |
14:58:55 [SrDragoon] | bah .. I can't get this to recognize the card when it's in the ARDS |
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14:59:46 [Committee] | i shame you master |
15:00:15 [Matador] | anyone on the mario kart ds server? |
15:00:32 [Committee] | about 5 players there |
15:00:54 [Matador] | i seem to be having trouble connecting to other players |
15:00:56 [SrDragoon] | oh i got it now, but man it is unstable. my card might be bad |
15:01:00 [Prof9] | !stats mariokartds |
15:01:05 [Prof9] | !stat mariokartds |
15:01:05 [Sacchi] | mariokartds has 5 players. |
15:01:12 [Matador] | i've patched the rom and everything and got onto servers |
15:02:43 [Committee] | did you patch it with the nossl or the specific mario kart patcher? |
15:03:02 [Matador] | yeah the specific mario kart one |
15:03:11 [Committee] | any error? |
15:03:26 [Matador] | i've got it to work on the server with two ds's on the same router |
15:03:50 [Matador] | nah it just never finds anyone when searching |
15:04:50 [Matador] | I'm using the USA rom and searching worldwide |
15:05:04 [Matador] | got a flashing light now |
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15:05:43 [Matador] | lights gone out |
15:06:10 [Matador] | back on |
15:06:16 [Committee] | hmm |
15:06:24 [Matador] | port forwarding issues? |
15:06:30 [Committee] | network issue? port forwarding maybe |
15:06:31 [Committee] | try it |
15:06:35 [Committee] | try to dmz your ds for now |
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15:10:48 [Matador] | was that you i just raced against? |
15:10:49 [SrDragoon] | ok i didnt connect but it appears my last dqvc was the dq3 trade fair |
15:11:52 [Committee] | ah then that could be a comparison |
15:11:56 [Committee] | Alchaid 4? |
15:12:04 [Committee] | ah im not online man, at work |
15:16:26 [SrDragoon] | oops i futzed the game id |
15:17:25 [SrDragoon] | hmmm whitescreen |
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15:19:16 [Genosync] | Anybody around? |
15:19:49 [Matador] | I Comittee: seems to be working now |
15:20:22 [Genosync] | Is the server up? |
15:21:02 [Committee] | nice |
15:21:06 [Committee] | dmz worked? |
15:21:23 [Committee] | server is up geno |
15:21:27 [SrDragoon] | that's better. might help if i put all the lines in =) |
15:21:30 [Matador] | nah didn't need to change it. just connected to a game. i'm setting the dmz now though |
15:21:54 [Genosync] | Getting 52220'd when trying connection tests from SysMenu. |
15:22:05 [Genosync] | Not really sure where to go at this point |
15:22:35 [Committee] | did you patch your game? did you set the dns server? |
15:23:03 [SrDragoon] | wow that was fast |
15:23:05 [Genosync] | Setting DNS server, this is still back at the System Menu. |
15:23:09 [Genosync] | Not even in a game yet. |
15:23:12 [Committee] | aight |
15:23:23 [SrDragoon] | I have alchaid 4 now |
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15:23:31 [Committee] | make sure you put in 75.127.5.215 |
15:23:43 [Committee] | hows the item list srdragoon? |
15:23:44 [SrDragoon] | but I didn't even see myself appear in the stats page |
15:23:44 [Genosync] | yeah |
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15:23:51 [Committee] | yeah it does a quick download |
15:23:56 [Committee] | doesnt really stay online |
15:23:57 [Genosync] | the DNS is set properly. |
15:24:01 [asdqweasd] | Who ever is playing jump ultimate stars |
15:24:02 [Genosync] | maybe I'll put my router as secondary |
15:24:10 [Committee] | thats why I think it just triggers a flag to set what to sell |
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15:24:38 [SrDragoon] | yeah but who is doing it? If it's not coming from altwfc, then SE still has the service up? |
15:24:47 [Genosync] | damn, still 52220'd |
15:24:50 [Committee] | no its coming from altwfc definitely |
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15:25:17 [Committee] | tried it on the official server couple of hours ago no go, wont connect anymore |
15:25:37 [asasas] | Umm |
15:25:42 [Committee] | hello asasas |
15:25:51 [asasas] | Is there any way of re-creating new Wifi profile, without deleting the save? |
15:25:55 [asasas] | an AR code or something |
15:26:04 [Committee] | you can delete your wifi profile, its independent of the save |
15:26:04 [Genosync] | not that's available at the moment |
15:26:07 [Genosync] | oh |
15:26:07 [vaguerant] | asasas, on Wii or DS? |
15:26:10 [Genosync] | really? |
15:26:18 [asasas] | on DS |
15:26:32 [Genosync] | I think he's talking about his FriendCode info |
15:26:35 [asasas] | an AR code, that would force the dialog to come (that prompts you to create new profile) |
15:26:37 [Genosync] | pretty sure that's tied to the save |
15:26:47 [vaguerant] | You can do it on DS, you just go into the wifi settings and hit that one button. |
15:26:55 [asasas] | thing is, the message that comes up, can be probably forced by AR code |
15:27:19 [vaguerant] | That would make the dialog appear, but you'd have to do it in all games. |
15:27:22 [asasas] | Nope, that wouldn't delete it xD, the thing that needs to be deleted is the friendcode associate with server. |
15:27:41 [asasas] | Or maybe, a save patch tool, that only removes the WFC profile from a save ;) |
15:27:49 [asasas] | Keep save intact |
15:27:55 [Committee] | hmm |
15:27:57 [Committee] | interesting |
15:27:58 [asasas] | ;D |
15:28:01 [asasas] | I think I hit something here |
15:28:03 [asasas] | hahahha |
15:28:07 [Committee] | what game? |
15:28:12 [vaguerant] | If your wifi ID changes, which it does when you delete it, the game sees it as a different DS and triggers the message, AFAIK. |
15:28:15 [asasas] | Right now, on Jump Ultimate Stars |
15:28:39 [asasas] | The thing is, it doesnt trigger it as long as ur using same save file |
15:29:10 [asasas] | that means somewhere in the save file, theres something created that holds your WIFI profile (friendcode, ID that servers associates with you) |
15:29:27 [Committee] | would that matter though? since the old server that hosts the friend codes went down you would need a new one to associate with the new server |
15:29:33 [Prof9] | https://camo.githubusercontent.com/14e3f7ff797b3e83323ab3d9db1088dcd42741ef/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f447572684278732e706e67 |
15:29:40 [Prof9] | press the Erase button there |
15:29:46 [Prof9] | deletes your wi-fi profiles for all games |
15:30:13 [asasas] | O.O |
15:30:14 [asasas] | All games ?? |
15:30:16 [Committee] | no i believe what asasas is trying to say is that the savefile in jump ultimate stars associates your wfc wiht the friend code |
15:30:43 [Committee] | hence if you delete the wfc the friend code for jump ultimate stars would have to be refreshed |
15:30:48 [Committee] | am i correct so far asasas? |
15:30:54 [Team_Fail] | it just removes the WFC profile |
15:31:01 [Team_Fail] | for any games registered with that DS |
15:31:05 [Prof9] | that button makes all your friend codes invalid |
15:31:10 [SrDragoon] | just did a quickie search through the code .. I don't find any mention of DQ in it, but that might mean I'm not searching with right terms |
15:31:12 [asasas] | That reset button, does it only delete the auto-connected WIFI routers, or the ACTUAL friendcode ID stored in the save file |
15:31:15 [Team_Fail] | although it's essential for connecting to the new server |
15:31:26 [Prof9] | it deletes the actual profile ID |
15:31:30 [Prof9] | as well as all routers |
15:31:31 [asasas] | o.o |
15:31:38 [Team_Fail] | the reset button just clears any WiFi settings |
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15:31:44 [Prof9] | did you not read the wiki |
15:31:45 [Team_Fail] | you can set it up again though |
15:31:54 [asasas] | Ahahah |
15:31:56 [asasas] | and shuts the DS in my face |
15:32:01 [Team_Fail] | i'd totally do this on my 3ds if i had a compatible AR for it |
15:32:18 [Committee] | i think what asasas is worried about is his savefile not working after removing wfc |
15:32:28 [Team_Fail] | so i can play MKDS with LR buttons |
15:32:35 [Prof9] | i think asasas just didn't read the wiki |
15:32:43 [asasas] | Nope, its not really that |
15:32:51 [asasas] | im testing what Prof9 said right now |
15:33:00 [asasas] | Yep |
15:33:03 [asasas] | Hes CORRECT!! |
15:33:27 [Committee] | <asasas> Is there any way of re-creating new Wifi profile, without deleting the save? |
15:33:28 [Committee] | <asasas> an AR code or something |
15:33:28 [Committee] | <Committee> you can delete your wifi profile, its independent of the save |
15:33:28 [asasas] | That erase button, deletes all WIFI routers (configured), as well as the friendcode/ID that server associates with you |
15:33:32 [Committee] | i said that earlier |
15:33:42 [asasas] | Pure genius !!!! |
15:33:44 [Committee] | the savefile is intact right? |
15:33:49 [asasas] | Yes it is |
15:33:50 [Prof9] | sigh |
15:34:01 [Committee] | >.< |
15:34:02 [asasas] | I thought I had to come up with AR code, that forces the dialog manually |
15:34:04 [asasas] | xD |
15:35:00 [asasas] | Hmm, could someone make a No SSL patcher that works within the DS |
15:35:08 [asasas] | like a NDS file that SSL patches games |
15:35:25 [Prof9] | the point being? |
15:35:33 [Committee] | for retail carts? |
15:35:44 [Prof9] | there is such a thing called an Action Replay |
15:35:50 [asasas] | So I don't have to SSL patch games on PC (laziness) |
15:35:51 [Committee] | https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki |
15:36:21 [Prof9] | literally all you have to do is drag and drop the ROM onto SslPatcher |
15:36:22 [Committee] | hmmm |
15:36:32 [Committee] | i would understand if you do not have pc access on a regular basis |
15:36:36 [Committee] | or using a mac |
15:36:43 [bobmcjr] | (SslPatcher doesn't work too well... at all) |
15:36:48 [Prof9] | i would not, how would you get the ROM in the first place |
15:37:03 [asasas] | Hmm, they're all stored on the DS, from back in the days |
15:37:27 [Pikachu025] | just redump your games |
15:38:14 [asasas] | Do all flash cards have the same usrcheats file |
15:38:14 [Committee] | please understand right now the team is small and yes the server is up but it is a working effort |
15:38:17 [asasas] | that contains all AR codes ? |
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15:38:27 [Prof9] | there is none yet |
15:38:31 [Prof9] | there might be in the future |
15:38:32 [Genosync] | So, got it working now I think, anyone up for Brawl? |
15:39:40 [bobmcjr] | sure |
15:40:02 [Committee] | the usrcheats file is jsut a textfile, for some reason it just has been the standard file name for flashcards |
15:40:15 [Prof9] | it's not a text file |
15:40:18 [Committee] | sorry my mistake |
15:40:30 [Committee] | not a text file then |
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15:40:39 [asasas] | hahhaha |
15:40:58 [Committee] | its a .dat file |
15:41:08 [bobmcjr2] | Which means nothing |
15:41:13 [asasas] | I think that it would be awesome, to have a NDS file, when you run it, it would add a AR code to all games (called no-ssl) that has the NO-SSL code within it |
15:41:13 [Genosync] | alright |
15:41:17 [Genosync] | I did the network enabler |
15:41:20 [Prof9] | it's basically a mess |
15:41:28 [Prof9] | I think that would be pointless |
15:41:32 [Genosync] | I'm loading the game with my codeset that has the wifi enable code |
15:41:49 [bobmcjr2] | Usrcheat.dat is like a very messy sql database |
15:41:50 [Genosync] | I'm sure it's loading my codes because my file replace stuff is working |
15:42:00 [asasas] | You'd just run it once, and all games will have a no ssl ar code within it, add batch ar codes |
15:42:15 [Prof9] | SslPatcher.exe *.nds |
15:42:16 [Prof9] | done |
15:42:16 [Genosync] | and now when I go to wifi in brawl |
15:42:21 [Genosync] | it Immediately tells me error 50220 |
15:42:23 [asasas] | hahahhahah |
15:42:34 [bobmcjr2] | Prof9 stop recommending sslpatcher unless it's been updated |
15:42:46 [asasas] | SSL patcher doesn't always work for me, sadly :( |
15:42:51 [Prof9] | it works on most games doesn't it |
15:43:00 [bobmcjr2] | It failed on all i tried |
15:43:13 [Genosync] | anyone any thoughts? |
15:43:16 [asasas] | I don't know why, but when I ran it on YSMENU, YSMENU couldn't create new save file, giving me an error |
15:43:21 [Committee] | bob what games have you tried it on? |
15:43:22 [Prof9] | ysmenu sucks |
15:43:26 [asasas] | :( |
15:43:31 [Genosync] | When I pick Wifi in Brawl it's immediately going to Error 50220 without even trying to connect... |
15:43:33 [bobmcjr2] | Geno i'm on basic brawl anyone |
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15:43:48 [Genosync] | I put in the DNS settings and did the network enabler to re-enable connection1 |
15:43:55 [Genosync] | which I'm wired |
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15:44:17 [Genosync] | it doesn't even attempt to turn on the wired adapter (normally the lights come on) |
15:44:19 [bobmcjr2] | Genosync is this real disc or usb |
15:44:29 [Genosync] | usb |
15:44:38 [Genosync] | code's in the file, I remade the GCT from scratch |
15:44:50 [Genosync] | and it's loading my file replacement stuff for brawl |
15:44:57 [Genosync] | brand new save |
15:45:05 [Genosync] | deleted and this is from scratch |
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15:45:20 [bobmcjr2] | Did you use a usbloader wire networked before? |
15:45:28 [Genosync] | yeah |
15:45:29 [Genosync] | all the time |
15:45:37 [bobmcjr2] | Hmm. So its not the ios |
15:45:49 [Genosync] | let me set to wireless |
15:45:51 [Genosync] | and see what happens |
15:47:01 [Genosync] | whoa |
15:47:07 [Genosync] | it straight told me connection settings are incorrect now |
15:47:13 [Genosync] | I think the network enabler screwed shit up |
15:47:20 [Genosync] | it didn't even try to connect to the wireless network |
15:47:22 [bobmcjr2] | Network enabler is fine |
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15:47:56 [Genosync] | ok |
15:47:59 [Genosync] | here it goes |
15:48:02 [Genosync] | testing |
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15:48:10 [Genosync] | success, setting DNS |
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15:49:04 [Genosync] | error 52231 as expected |
15:49:10 [Genosync] | using network enable |
15:49:24 [bobmcjr2] | Hmm. |
15:49:46 [Genosync] | set wireless conn as default |
15:49:49 [Genosync] | loading brawls |
15:49:50 [bobmcjr2] | Disable the ocarina stuff |
15:50:04 [Genosync] | um |
15:50:05 [Genosync] | will it work |
15:50:09 [Genosync] | without the code? |
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15:50:15 [bobmcjr2] | If you get 20110 with the ocarina codes off, that means the network stuff isn't to blame |
15:50:43 [Genosync] | alright, let's see where it goes |
15:50:50 [Genosync] | I already started loading with them on |
15:50:51 [Genosync] | so |
15:50:56 [Genosync] | will do that real quick |
15:51:01 [Genosync] | it's going through now |
15:51:14 [Genosync] | maybe something to do with the wired adapter |
15:51:21 [Genosync] | my FC is 5153-9607-6586 |
15:52:02 [Matador] | anyone got stats on mario kart ds? |
15:52:11 [Genosync] | making my controls real quick |
15:52:27 [Genosync] | what's your FC bob |
15:52:41 [Genosync] | I'd rather do that than For Anyone since we can control it and that's how we were seeing the DCs before |
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15:54:40 [qwasdq] | nice match to stranger at JUS :D |
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15:57:50 [Genosync] | bob :( |
15:58:20 [Genosync] | anyone else Brawl? |
15:58:48 [Genosync] | I think y'alls server is going to work better already though... no idea what's different |
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16:01:37 [Genosync] | bob can we do regular peer to peer match |
16:01:45 [Genosync] | I want to test under same conditions as we had on wiimm's server |
16:01:55 [bobmcjr2] | We aren't doing regular match? |
16:01:56 [Naughx] | Is brawl's online region free? |
16:01:58 [Genosync] | nah |
16:02:02 [Genosync] | this is for anyone |
16:02:05 [Genosync] | not FC to FC |
16:02:15 [Genosync] | what's your profile's FC |
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16:02:26 [Genosync] | mine is 5153-9607-6586 |
16:02:26 [Naughx] | (Like European Brawl can connect with NTSC-U?) |
16:02:34 [Genosync] | and Brawl is region free internet play |
16:02:35 [Genosync] | yes |
16:02:46 [Genosync] | all shows up as RSBJ as far as servers are concerned |
16:02:48 [Matador] | !stat mariokartds |
16:02:49 [Sacchi] | mariokartds has 4 players. |
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16:03:15 [Matador] | !stat mariokartds |
16:03:15 [Sacchi] | mariokartds has 4 players. |
16:03:16 [bobmcjr2] | 3478-9235-1082 |
16:03:34 [Genosync] | yeah |
16:03:39 [Genosync] | you guys' box doesn't do what wiimm's does |
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16:03:49 [Genosync] | I have a feeling we'll never get dc'd on this server |
16:04:02 [Naughx] | wiimmfi is awesome. :P |
16:04:12 [Matador] | !stat mariokartds |
16:04:12 [Sacchi] | mariokartds has 3 players. |
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16:04:24 [Genosync] | let me know when you've added bob |
16:04:31 [bobmcjr2] | Done |
16:04:38 [Genosync] | sweet |
16:04:50 [Genosync] | this server is definitely different |
16:04:56 [Genosync] | bob, go ahead and host a match |
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16:04:59 [Genosync] | let's see how long it takes to start |
16:05:07 [Genosync] | just go to Create a Room |
16:05:11 [Genosync] | damn |
16:05:16 [Genosync] | I'm getting the brawl people moved over here |
16:05:21 [Genosync] | hopefully I can write up a guide |
16:05:24 [bobmcjr2] | Done |
16:05:28 [bobmcjr2] | Waiting |
16:05:32 [Genosync] | it showed up instantly |
16:05:37 [Genosync] | Wiimm's servers? sometimes NOT AT ALL. |
16:05:49 [bobmcjr2] | I enabled 2 cpu's as well |
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16:10:28 [Genosync] | yeah uh |
16:10:31 [Genosync] | we haven't gotten d/c'd |
16:10:34 [Genosync] | and it's been a while |
16:10:39 [Genosync] | this is definitely where we need to be |
16:10:41 [bobmcjr2] | Genosync we still need to test team brawl anyone |
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16:11:18 [Genosync] | it'll work, the problem we were having was just keeping a connect and FL updates |
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16:16:46 [bobmcjr2] | Gg |
16:16:47 [Genosync] | alright bob |
16:16:50 [Genosync] | thanks for testing with me |
16:16:56 [Genosync] | ggs, wife is telling me I gotta go |
16:17:02 [Genosync] | I really appreciate this, you have no idea |
16:17:09 [Genosync] | community is going to be happy when I write up guide |
16:17:36 [vaguerant] | Family love Michael. |
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16:18:25 [bobmcjr2] | Anyone else want to brawl? |
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16:26:28 [bobmcjr2] | !stat |
16:26:28 [Sacchi] | 'mprimeds', 'mariokartds', 'smashbrosxwii', 'mariokartwii' |
16:26:37 [bobmcjr2] | !stat smash |
16:26:37 [Sacchi] | smashbrosxwii has 2 players. |
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16:34:28 [serpe1] | online brawl work? |
16:36:00 [bobmcjr2] | Yes, want to try? |
16:36:48 [serpe1] | yes |
16:38:16 [serpe1] | Need friend code? |
16:39:04 [bobmcjr2] | No go to basic brawl anyone |
16:39:08 [serpe1] | ok |
16:39:28 [serpe1] | i'm in |
16:40:58 [bobmcjr2] | I'm on |
16:41:10 [bobmcjr2] | !stat smash |
16:41:10 [Sacchi] | smashbrosxwii has 3 players. |
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16:42:42 [serpe1] | it disconnected |
16:42:50 [bobmcjr2] | Try again |
16:43:20 [serpe1] | done |
16:44:18 [bobmcjr2] | Try friend code |
16:44:34 [serpe1] | 3779 5712 2421 |
16:44:48 [bobmcjr2] | 3478-9235-1082 |
16:45:11 [serpe1] | added |
16:45:33 [bobmcjr2] | I'll host |
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16:45:56 [serpe1] | i'm joining |
16:46:15 [serpe1] | error 86420 |
16:46:31 [bobmcjr2] | I think something is wrong on your end |
16:46:37 [serpe1] | wait a moment |
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16:47:48 [vaguerant] | Has anyone looked at Heroes of Mana? Apparently it had downloadable maps. Not sure if they were truly downloadable or just flipping a bit somewhere. |
16:49:26 [serpe1] | ok |
16:49:32 [serpe1] | try now |
16:49:42 [bobmcjr2] | Still hosting |
16:50:10 [Prof9] | I haven't seen a lot of "true" DLC on the DS |
16:50:33 [serpe1] | no |
16:52:08 [bobmcjr2] | Anyone else for brawl? |
16:53:07 [serpe1] | last try |
16:54:07 [serpe1] | joining |
16:54:51 [serpe1] | now it doesn't do errors but do nothing |
16:54:57 [serpe1] | only waiting |
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16:56:29 [serpe1] | bob try with basic brawl now |
16:56:42 [bobmcjr2] | Ok |
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17:00:27 [serpe1] | nothing to do |
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17:20:02 [jango] | uh |
17:20:15 [jango] | so i have to delete my save file to go online |
17:20:16 [jango] | ? |
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17:59:44 [vaguerant] | How many actually good DS games had play over wi-fi anyway? |
17:59:57 [vaguerant] | I'd be surprised if there's as many as 15. |
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18:00:24 [Pikachu025] | that sounds about right |
18:00:45 [Pikachu025] | though you could artificially inflate that number by counting every pokemon version |
18:01:15 [vaguerant] | Hahahahaha. I think that'd make them the majority by far. |
18:08:01 [Pipian] | Well |
18:08:06 [Pipian] | Pokemon gets you 9 |
18:08:20 [Committee] | phantasy star 0 |
18:08:26 [Committee] | thats 10 |
18:08:43 [Committee] | what else... |
18:09:08 [Pikachu025] | On a more serious note, it's probably fair to count Pokémon as 2, once per generation. |
18:09:21 [vaguerant] | Yeah, I was thinking that. |
18:09:28 [Pipian] | 2.5 |
18:09:50 [Pipian] | There’s enough added to Platinum/HeartGold/SoulSilver that they deserve a half-game |
18:10:00 [Pipian] | In terms of technical requirements |
18:10:12 [Pikachu025] | I suppose. |
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18:10:28 [Pikachu025] | But they completely replace DP if you count it that way. |
18:10:51 [vaguerant] | I think most of the Bomberman games have pretty similar "battle mode" online stuff. |
18:11:01 [vaguerant] | They're all fine, but you don't need more than one. |
18:11:46 [Committee] | animal crossing |
18:11:53 [vaguerant] | That's all stuff I was thinking so far. :V |
18:12:16 [Committee] | Contact |
18:12:20 [Prof9] | megaman |
18:12:25 [vaguerant] | I'd also put Sonic Kart on there. |
18:12:37 [Committee] | DQ Monsters Joker 1 and 2 |
18:12:40 [Pikachu025] | Rescue missions in Mystery Dungeon if you want to count that. |
18:12:43 [vaguerant] | What do you do in Contact? |
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18:13:45 [vaguerant] | Tetris Party is another one that's fine, but you don't need more than one Tetris game. |
18:13:46 [Committee] | you can get an npc from the other person, some items exclusive to that mode |
18:14:06 [Pikachu025] | ...There was a DS Megaman game with online multiplayer? |
18:14:06 [Committee] | FF3 to unlock the Onion Knight job |
18:14:14 [vaguerant] | That seems like a pretty borderline definition of "online play". |
18:14:34 [Pikachu025] | Eh, I wouldn't count arbitrary online bullshit as online play, yeah. |
18:14:52 [Pikachu025] | Same with like the weekly puzzles in Layton, technically needs online but is super arbitrary. |
18:14:57 [Arnold0] | Hi, Some people for a mariokart ds game ? |
18:15:07 [Committee] | how bout the yugi-oh series |
18:15:11 [Committee] | for online play? |
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18:15:34 [Committee] | spirit caller and 2k7 - 2k8 |
18:16:16 [Committee] | oh Ragnarok Online |
18:16:28 [vaguerant] | That game reviewed pretty awfully. |
18:16:29 [Pikachu025] | Dunno, the only card game games I care about were the GBC Pokemon ones, mostly because of their amazing soundtracks. |
18:16:39 [Pikachu025] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29KpLvyywnI |
18:16:39 [Sacchi] | FamiTracker (N163) - GR Normal Battle - Pokemon GB 2 / TCG 2 :: 4:21 :: ★★★★★ :: 157 Views :: 8 Ratings |
18:16:42 [vaguerant] | I played it with bobmcjr for about 15 minutes, it seemed mediocre. |
18:16:49 [Committee] | Ragnarok Online had that online mode Tower something |
18:16:55 [vaguerant] | Yeah. |
18:17:04 [bobmcjr3] | Repeatedly tap the screen |
18:17:09 [vaguerant] | Yep. |
18:17:18 [Committee] | same as any mmo... just click away |
18:17:18 [Pikachu025] | well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPl-ns-yIUE I suppose but it's close anyway |
18:17:18 [Sacchi] | Pokemon Card GB2 Music - GR Normal Battle :: 2:24 :: ★★★★★ :: 9,138 Views :: 36 Ratings |
18:17:36 [vaguerant] | At least you get the MMO part in an MMO. |
18:17:52 [Committee] | what else... |
18:18:04 [Committee] | the megaman star force |
18:18:12 [Committee] | that or im thinking metroid prime |
18:18:58 [bobmcjr3] | There was another sonic game that supported it |
18:19:58 [Committee] | the Mario and Sonic at the olympic games? |
18:20:32 [bobmcjr3] | Nah it was a pure sanic game. |
18:20:53 [vaguerant] | Aren't the Olympics games just leaderboards, anyway? |
18:20:55 [Committee] | Sonic Colors? |
18:21:05 [bobmcjr3] | Maybe you already mentioned it |
18:21:09 [Committee] | it had wifi match ups |
18:21:27 [Committee] | either that or Sonic Rush Adventures |
18:21:41 [bobmcjr3] | Sanic rush adventures |
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18:22:22 [Committee] | has anyone tested GTA? |
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18:23:06 [bobmcjr3] | I think the compatibility list said it crashed the server or something |
18:23:25 [Committee] | meh |
18:23:45 [Committee] | did it connect to rockstar social club already? |
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18:29:46 [frogzilla] | Woohoo |
18:29:58 [frogzilla] | This always works |
18:29:59 [frogzilla] | http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23altwfc |
18:29:59 [Sacchi] | Mibbit.com Webchat client |
18:30:11 [frogzilla] | I have alot of problems with rizon |
18:30:16 [frogzilla] | it keeps disconnecting me !! |
18:30:25 [einstein|sleep] | -!- einstein|sleep is now known as einstein95 |
18:30:39 [frogzilla] | Any ideas why ? |
18:31:05 [einstein95] | Getting a real IRC client would be a good idea to try out |
18:31:28 [frogzilla] | are there any portable IRC clients ? |
18:31:35 [frogzilla] | like runnable exe |
18:31:42 [vaguerant] | clircDS. :V |
18:32:00 [Committee] | mirc |
18:32:06 [Committee] | you can install it as portable |
18:32:18 [Committee] | it went the way of the winrar, shared forever just reminding you |
18:32:29 [frogzilla] | hahaha |
18:32:34 [einstein95] | http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/pchat_portable http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/kvirc_portable |
18:32:35 [Sacchi] | PChat Portable | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB, portable and cloud drives |
18:33:26 [einstein95] | http://www.pendriveapps.com/hydrairc-portable-irc-client/ http://www.pendriveapps.com/megairc/ http://www.portablefreeware.com/?sc=75 |
18:33:26 [Sacchi] | HydraIRC – Portable IRC Client | Portable USB Applications |
18:33:36 [einstein95] | Take your pick |
18:33:40 [frogzilla] | Woow |
18:33:43 [frogzilla] | so many options !! |
18:33:43 [frogzilla] | xD |
18:33:46 [Prof9] | those aren't kvirc |
18:34:03 [Prof9] | using clircDS with altwfc is somehow ironic |
18:34:11 [frogzilla] | Ahahahha |
18:34:18 [frogzilla] | But still, it makes sense |
18:34:30 [frogzilla] | You can look for people with the DS, people you wanna match |
18:34:33 [frogzilla] | reset and play |
18:34:45 [einstein95] | Prof9: Second link, first line: kvirc |
18:34:55 [Prof9] | oh whoops |
18:35:00 [Prof9] | I was looking at Sacchi |
18:35:25 [einstein95] | bbl |
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18:35:59 [frogzilla] | Does it cost Nagato alot of money to run the server ?? |
18:36:26 [Committee] | Interesting question, Nagato any plans to setup a donate box? |
18:36:55 [frogzilla] | Im really not sure how much bandwidth these games take |
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18:37:24 [Pipian] | I don’t expect it is much |
18:37:29 [Pipian] | Other than maybe DLC |
18:37:40 [frogzilla] | Pay to download DLC then ;) |
18:37:41 [Pipian] | Most of the stuff is tiny status updates |
18:37:49 [frogzilla] | Nagato should become EA |
18:37:59 [Pipian] | So it should be pretty dinky when you compare it to, say, normal web traffic |
18:38:08 [Committee] | http://nintendoeverything.com/more-details-about-the-nintendo-wi-fi-connection-from-former-gamespy-general-manager/ |
18:38:10 [frogzilla] | Yeah, i think so |
18:38:13 [Sacchi] | More details about the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection from former GameSpy general manager | Nintendo Everything |
18:38:19 [frogzilla] | Wow, nice post !!! |
18:38:37 [Committee] | - Awkward silence for a minute; then the two Nintendo sides yelled at each other in Japanese for about 10 minutes while GameSpy just sat there - After that, the translator said, “Okay yes, they understand. Thank you.” |
18:38:41 [Committee] | this made me lol |
18:39:14 [Committee] | like a badly dubbed japanese samurai movie |
18:39:39 [frogzilla] | hahhaha |
18:39:45 [frogzilla] | Loooool |
18:40:30 [frogzilla] | You know, I wish a banning feature can be added to the server |
18:40:34 [Seru-kun] | Well |
18:40:41 [frogzilla] | Everyone hates hackers/cheaters, we should ban them |
18:40:49 [Seru-kun] | I'm happy they don't use GameSpy anymore today. |
18:41:02 [Pipian] | The tricky bit is that, other than banning by console |
18:41:04 [Pipian] | You can’t do much |
18:41:14 [Seru-kun] | Online is so much better on 3DS and Wii U |
18:41:15 [Pipian] | Certainly difficult to detect since it’s all P2P |
18:41:21 [frogzilla] | Yeah |
18:41:29 [frogzilla] | It is tough !! |
18:42:07 [frogzilla] | some games are ruined by cheaters tho |
18:42:17 [frogzilla] | someway to identify a person, and reject them making connection to the server |
18:42:26 [vaguerant] | Unless I'm testing, I only ever play against people I know. |
18:42:28 [frogzilla] | identify them thro their MAC address maybe |
18:42:34 [vaguerant] | So hacking doesn't affect me at all. |
18:42:35 [Pipian] | Well |
18:42:36 [frogzilla] | or home IP address |
18:42:48 [frogzilla] | so ban entire IP address if they're caught cheating |
18:43:02 [Pipian] | frogzilla: There’s enough information in the NAS login to ban |
18:43:07 [frogzilla] | Soon enough tho, cheaters are going to start coming in |
18:43:07 [Pipian] | That’s what NAS was used for in principle |
18:43:19 [Pipian] | The problem is actually identifying the cheaters and associating them with their profile-id |
18:43:23 [Pipian] | If you can find their profile-id |
18:43:25 [Pipian] | You can ban them |
18:43:30 [frogzilla] | I see |
18:43:35 [frogzilla] | Hmmm |
18:43:48 [frogzilla] | So since its P2P |
18:43:52 [frogzilla] | theres no evidence of cheating |
18:43:54 [Pipian] | No |
18:43:57 [Pipian] | There’s no evidence |
18:44:01 [Pipian] | It’s all honor system |
18:44:07 [vaguerant] | Does the server ever see custom emblems in games like Mario Kart, or do they just go peer to peer? |
18:44:17 [frogzilla] | hmm |
18:44:20 [Pipian] | I suspect (without evidence) that those are peer to peer |
18:44:38 [Pipian] | About all the server sees is “This friend-ID is looking for this type of game" |
18:44:41 [vaguerant] | That's a shame. A giant mosaic of people's custom emblems would be neat. |
18:44:51 [frogzilla] | Hahaaha |
18:44:58 [Pipian] | We could theoretically be more advanced than the dumb NWC match-maker |
18:45:03 [Pipian] | And actually show what people are asking for |
18:45:11 [frogzilla] | I think the only way |
18:45:14 [Prof9] | we have the technology |
18:45:19 [frogzilla] | is to have users who see cheaters, report (with evidence) |
18:45:27 [Pipian] | i.e. with a little knowledge about how they matchmake, we can do things like say “This many people on Pokemon are asking for trades" |
18:45:32 [Pipian] | Or even make it accessible via HTTP |
18:45:39 [frogzilla] | with cheaters name and other ID (like number of wins/loss) |
18:45:39 [Pipian] | “These friends are online” without having to actually login |
18:46:05 [Pipian] | Though it’d probably be better to not do that |
18:46:08 [frogzilla] | admin can then find real ID of person thro their name and info provided by the report |
18:46:16 [vaguerant] | I was thinking a DS homebrew to read (some future version of) the stats page would be cool. |
18:46:21 [Pipian] | Because forcing people to log in also guarantees that the other people already online will see you |
18:46:33 [Pipian] | Which wouldn’t happen with a drive-by HTTP website |
18:46:51 [frogzilla] | vaguerant, it's only temporary :D, you can always use the beloved DSORganize |
18:47:18 [vaguerant] | I have a RAM pack, so I could always use the official browser if I really wanted. |
18:47:41 [frogzilla] | OmG, i just thought about an amazing IDEA |
18:47:58 [frogzilla] | Basically, its extra programming into the server |
18:48:01 [frogzilla] | but what happens is |
18:48:19 [frogzilla] | If you want to join custom server, you need to register your own friendcode and a name (name that you HAVE to use in ur DS) |
18:48:35 [frogzilla] | when the person wants to connect they have to use only that name (lets say it is ABC) |
18:49:09 [frogzilla] | once they connect, if they're caught cheating by other people, a report will be made by ABC, admin can check the friendcode of ABC and ban his/her IP address |
18:49:20 [Pipian] | Well |
18:49:22 [Pipian] | For one thing |
18:49:35 [frogzilla] | So in other words, new friendcodes arent handed in for free, each have to be assigned to a person |
18:49:45 [Pipian] | NAS can’t really check profile ID except indirectly I believe |
18:49:54 [Pipian] | And it certainly doesn’t know what name you registered as |
18:50:00 [Pipian] | Although it does know what name you used on your DS |
18:50:01 [Pikachu025] | you're making this shit way too complicated |
18:50:34 [frogzilla] | Whats ur hit on this pikachu ! |
18:51:10 [Pipian] | Fundamentally the problem is that there’s no in-game way to report cheaters |
18:51:34 [frogzilla] | (potato video camera?) |
18:51:37 [frogzilla] | ahahhaha |
18:51:57 [vaguerant] | How did Nintendo do it, anyway? |
18:52:07 [Pikachu025] | they didn't |
18:52:10 [Pipian] | vaguerant: They didn’t, really. At least as far as I know |
18:52:10 [frogzilla] | They didnt ban (as far as i know) |
18:52:12 [vaguerant] | Some user reports that "JimmyB" was cheating on Mario Kart DS yesterday. |
18:52:14 [Pipian] | They could have, but they didn't. |
18:52:29 [vaguerant] | OK, yeah, because I was going to say, that information is friggin' useless. |
18:52:58 [frogzilla] | We need some way of 1. Reporting a cheat. 2. Find persons friendcode ID |
18:53:01 [frogzilla] | How just how !! |
18:53:47 [Pipian] | The only exception to cheating |
18:53:56 [Pipian] | Is that you could probably do some game-specific stuff for some games |
18:54:23 [Pipian] | Like Pokemon GTS could be geared a bit better to filter hacked pokemon put up |
18:55:13 [Pipian] | But that’s the exception that proves the rule. That only works because they actually have to contact a centralized server for the activity |
18:55:20 [Committee] | There is something very Freudian about your passion against cheaters... |
18:55:50 [frogzilla] | Ahh, you can say ..... I HATE THEM!! |
18:55:55 [Marusame] | im with em, people who cheat in online games are scum |
18:56:02 [frogzilla] | Seriously, they mess up everything |
18:56:14 [Marusame] | if you have to cheat in order to win, then you suck and shouldnt be playing at all |
18:56:23 [frogzilla] | They need to get banned, and now since we have custom servers, we should ban them |
18:56:34 [Pipian] | Yeah |
18:56:39 [Pipian] | But unless you can identify them |
18:56:40 [Pipian] | Nothing you can do |
18:57:05 [Pipian] | The best you could do is a post-hoc reputation thing |
18:57:07 [Marusame] | there may be an ocarina code or two that can show that info |
18:57:15 [Pipian] | Because the server can at least sorta see who you’re connecting to |
18:57:17 [Marusame] | i think there are codes that show more info online |
18:57:28 [Pipian] | So you MIGHT be able to log games |
18:57:31 [Pipian] | In so far as you can say |
18:57:37 [Pipian] | “Here are the people who you played with last." |
18:57:54 [Pipian] | But knowledge on that account is limited |
18:58:02 [Pipian] | I think it works with Pokemon because it’s one on one |
18:58:12 [Pipian] | So you can see who’s connected to who |
18:58:18 [Pipian] | Or make some strong inferences |
18:58:35 [Marusame] | i used a liscense code just to unlock everything in mario kart wii and i think on the ds too but that was it, i wasnt gonna spend forever and a day unlocking stuff just to stay competitive. online games should give you everything |
18:58:58 [Pipian] | So you could have a website which says |
18:59:07 [frogzilla] | Ahh |
18:59:15 [Pipian] | “Here are the people you played with last. GIve a thumbs up if they were good, a thumbs down if they were cheating" |
18:59:21 [Committee] | Marusame and that is not cheating how? |
18:59:50 [Pipian] | A sufficient number of thumbs downs to thumbs ups could be used as evidence of cheating to ban |
18:59:52 [Pipian] | But otherwise |
18:59:52 [Marusame] | because its just to unlock whats already there, its not enhancing the game any |
19:00:04 [frogzilla] | We can have super players, (that have tracking routers) and can report players to server admin, they go through games and try to find cheaters, any cheater found they're able to get their ID in real time (through the router log) and report that to server admin |
19:00:07 [Committee] | but you just "skipped" over what others worked hard for? |
19:00:20 [Pipian] | frogzilla: That’s too difficult |
19:00:27 [frogzilla] | super players can change their name offc, so they act like real players |
19:00:43 [vaguerant] | How much are you going to pay them. |
19:00:49 [Pipian] | And basically requires developing special versions of the game |
19:00:50 [frogzilla] | 2 dollaa |
19:01:06 [frogzilla] | No no no no ~~ |
19:01:23 [frogzilla] | They use normal version of the game, just their router logs info, if they find cheater they get cheater IP address and report to nagato |
19:01:33 [Committee] | frogzilla you have a great idea, however I think you have to understand the scope of what your idea would entail |
19:01:34 [Pipian] | Yeah |
19:01:37 [Pipian] | If you were smart though |
19:01:41 [Pipian] | You could at least do something like |
19:01:46 [Pipian] | Set up a custom sniffer app |
19:01:57 [Pipian] | That logged the game-play and reported |
19:02:03 [Marusame] | its no different then using a cheat to unlock all the characters in ssbb, hell ive had to beat that damn game 3 times cause once i sent in a wii and they erased it. so i beat it again 100%, then i lost that wii cause it was a rental now i have one i beat a 3rd time |
19:02:04 [Pipian] | But that out-of-band logging will be difficult |
19:02:42 [Marusame] | even though i worked my ass off getting all the characters and beating Subspace Emissary i have no qualms if anyone just unlocks em though a cheat so they can play as well |
19:02:54 [Committee] | ah understood |
19:03:00 [frogzilla] | No, im talking about cheating in online play |
19:03:02 [Committee] | so its only select cheats you are good with |
19:03:16 [frogzilla] | Like unlimited items (mario kart) or black koma (jus) |
19:03:28 [Pipian] | Committee: frogzilla (and many other anti-cheaters) are mostly concerned with cheats that actually affect the enjoyment of others |
19:03:34 [Marusame] | i think you should have the ability to play as a full roster in online games or else its unfair |
19:03:42 [Pipian] | Cheating to unlock parts of a game only affects yourself. |
19:03:54 [Committee] | i dont agree with that |
19:03:55 [frogzilla] | Yeah exactly, but online cheating is the issue |
19:03:58 [Pipian] | Cheating to win every MKDS race shits on others |
19:03:58 [Committee] | take Mario Kart for example |
19:04:04 [Marusame] | cause when i started before they turned off the wii online i was getting my ass handed to me cause i didnt have all the characters unlocked |
19:04:05 [Committee] | 3ds i mean |
19:04:05 [frogzilla] | Exactly |
19:04:15 [Committee] | people grind that game to get the gold parts |
19:04:19 [Committee] | which could dominate online play |
19:04:33 [Committee] | so that means its ok to just unlock the gold parts via AR and go online with them?> |
19:04:44 [Pipian] | Yes, because that at least evens the playing field |
19:04:48 [frogzilla] | Its still acquirable |
19:04:56 [Pipian] | Granted that forces an arms race |
19:05:02 [Pipian] | Where you have to get the gold parts to be competitive |
19:05:08 [frogzilla] | But cheating like infinite items (non stop) or infinite specials (jus) |
19:05:21 [frogzilla] | you cant acquire that, other than cheating |
19:05:24 [Committee] | so those who unlocked the gold parts the hard way, does that mean their efforts are nulled? |
19:05:29 [Marusame] | its not like im doing it to just use the best character, i just did it so i can have a full roster and be able to choose what track i wanted |
19:05:37 [frogzilla] | no, they enjoyed the game, took them longer but they got there |
19:05:52 [frogzilla] | and match making should make it fair, choose similar skilled people |
19:05:55 [Committee] | I guess what im interested in is, you say you hate cheaters, but you are unwilling to play the game the way its meant to be played |
19:06:04 [Pipian] | Committee: Not really, because there’s something to be said for defeating your own enjoyment of the game |
19:06:09 [Committee] | under the idea of "leveling" the playing field |
19:06:12 [Marusame] | i dont have the time to go through all that, i have nearly 150 xbox 360 games, 320 steam games, and 13 consoles |
19:06:16 [Pipian] | If you cheat to get the gold parts you’re only harming your own enjoyment |
19:06:22 [Pipian] | By removing the incentive to try to get them |
19:06:37 [Committee] | Marusame, which is your choice, not anyone elses |
19:06:38 [Marusame] | yes i know, but i wasnt enjoying single player |
19:06:49 [frogzilla] | Committee, I'm not saying cheating to speed up game progress is okay, it just happens (and sucks), but it's still legit progress, what I'm saying is we should stop what we can (and thats match making) |
19:06:59 [frogzilla] | You can't tell if someone has acquired them legit or not, you never know |
19:07:03 [Marusame] | i still lost every game i played |
19:07:10 [Committee] | and what im saying frogzilla is that you have a GREAT IDEA, i love that |
19:07:16 [Marusame] | not like it gave me an "edge" |
19:07:40 [Committee] | HOWEVER, if you understood the SCOPE of what that idea would entail i guarantee you would change your view on how it can be done |
19:07:43 [Prof9] | why would you dictate how people want to play the game |
19:07:48 [Prof9] | that's a huge can of worms right there |
19:07:52 [frogzilla] | I really have no idea about the scope !! |
19:07:53 [Committee] | exactly |
19:07:57 [Marusame] | on top of that everyone had to erase their games |
19:08:05 [Pipian] | I mean, the flip side of the golden parts thing is |
19:08:20 [Pipian] | Suppose you banned those who cheated in getting those |
19:08:45 [Marusame] | i dont know what the golden parts are, i just know it unlocks 3 extra bikes and 3 extra quads and the rest of the characters |
19:08:48 [Pipian] | Is it unfair to give the people who already are doing better (by having spent time and effort in getting them) yet another advantage over people who were unable to? |
19:09:39 [Marusame] | i think mario kart should of unlocked everything for multiplayer from the get go |
19:09:53 [Marusame] | they did that for street fighter 4, you had to unlock all the characters |
19:09:57 [Committee] | then that leaves only multiplayer viable |
19:10:15 [Marusame] | then in super street fighter 4 they just unlocked em by default cause it was a pain in the ass to have a full roster |
19:10:46 [frogzilla] | Online match making should cover that marusame, it should match make people with same game progress |
19:11:31 [Pipian] | Well |
19:11:34 [Pipian] | That would be the ideal |
19:11:37 [Committee] | like ELOE system in chess? |
19:11:48 [Committee] | or the match making in LoL? |
19:11:49 [Pipian] | But that’s a bit hampered by the fact that the games aren’t designed to reveal much to the serner |
19:12:00 [Pipian] | Unless they’ve already been designed to do that sort of ranking |
19:12:13 [Pipian] | You can’t retroactively fix that |
19:12:24 [frogzilla] | Exactly man :( |
19:12:24 [Marusame] | i say unlocking a roster is perfectly legit, every person i faced had the entire roster anyway |
19:12:28 [frogzilla] | sadly, nintendo didnt think of that |
19:13:09 [frogzilla] | They dont even match make by ammount of wins/losses |
19:13:15 [Marusame] | whats cheating is using something you cant do by skill in an online game that gives you an advantage |
19:13:16 [vaguerant] | What kind of weird platform are you on anyway, Pipian? It's weirding me out that you're using curly apostrophes. |
19:13:32 [Pipian] | Colloquy, OS X |
19:13:37 [vaguerant] | Ahhhhh, gotcha. |
19:14:00 [Marusame] | i run windows 7 on a mac pro 2008 :P |
19:14:47 [Marusame] | and my laptop is windows 8 and ubuntu linux so i have many flavors |
19:16:34 [Marusame] | hmm i wonder how ssbb is going to work? what if people wanted to play brawl Minus or project M |
19:17:05 [Pipian] | Well in theory |
19:17:10 [Pipian] | Now that we control the servers |
19:17:21 [Pipian] | We could create custom game-ids for those variants |
19:17:42 [Pipian] | But that would also require fixing the game to report those game-ids to the server |
19:17:58 [Pipian] | !stat |
19:17:58 [Sacchi] | 'mprimeds', 'lozphourds', 'smashbrosxwii', 'acrossingwii' |
19:18:08 [frogzilla] | !stat |
19:18:08 [Sacchi] | 'mprimeds', 'lozphourds', 'smashbrosxwii', 'acrossingwii' |
19:18:11 [frogzilla] | ioooo |
19:18:17 [Pipian] | Instead of reporting smashbrosxwii maybe smashbrosminus or smashbrosm |
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19:24:19 [frogzilla] | I think its amazing how the custom server works !! |
19:24:22 [frogzilla] | Too good |
19:25:24 [Prof9] | !stat balls |
19:25:24 [Sacchi] | No one is using a game like "balls" |
19:25:33 [Prof9] | oh no, it doesn't work anymore? |
19:25:46 [vaguerant] | It only reports games people are currently playing. |
19:26:02 [vaguerant] | Nobody's playing anything with balls in the name right now, but if someone was it'd work. |
19:26:11 [Prof9] | !stat meds |
19:26:11 [Sacchi] | mprimeds has 1 player. |
19:27:28 [vaguerant] | Possibilities: 8ballstarsds, MLBallstarsds, unbballswii. |
19:27:54 [vaguerant] | A pool/billiards game, a baseball game, and whatever "Unbelievaballs" is on Wii. |
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19:28:53 [bobmcjr] | !stat |
19:28:53 [Sacchi] | 'mprimeds', 'lozphourds', 'mariokartds', 'smashbrosxwii' |
19:29:04 [vaguerant] | Actually, I can't find any evidence of a game on Wii called that, so it might be another orphan. |
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19:30:12 [bobmcjr] | !stat \v\f"\x\t); |
19:30:12 [Sacchi] | No one is using a game like "\v\f"\x\t);" |
19:30:15 [bobmcjr] | aww |
19:31:37 [vaguerant] | I've been collecting the weird cases out of interest. contrads, figlandds, hobbitds, mariopartyds, nameneverds, noahprods, simsportsds, soccerjamds. |
19:32:06 [vaguerant] | These games all either don't exist or don't have any wifi functionality in their released versions (Contra, Mario Party). |
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19:32:41 [vaguerant] | Apparently there was going to be a "MySims Sports", but that's not an entry in the series that ever happened. |
19:33:02 [vaguerant] | Got far enough to have a server built though. |
19:33:38 [vaguerant] | Or at least assigned. |
19:35:11 [Prof9] | I don't think they have entire servers for a single games |
19:35:13 [Prof9] | gamE* |
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19:35:24 [vaguerant] | Right, I'm misusing "server" horribly. |
19:36:03 [vaguerant] | I can't think of a better word for ... single-game-connectivity-units-on-a-shared-server. |
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19:44:25 [Team_Fail] | o/ |
19:45:26 [Committee] | Adios Mi Patria Adorada |
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19:50:31 [Marusame] | sounds like a virtual server environment |
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20:04:49 [vaguerant] | !stat lux |
20:04:49 [Sacchi] | No one is using a game like "lux" |
20:05:03 [vaguerant] | Hmm. |
20:06:08 [bobmcjr] | !stat |
20:06:08 [Sacchi] | 'mprimeds', 'smashbrosxwii', 'tetrisdeluxds' |
20:08:06 [einstein95] | !stat lux |
20:08:06 [Sacchi] | tetrisdeluxds has 1 player. |
20:09:46 [bobmcjr] | !stat x |
20:09:46 [Sacchi] | Choose one: 'smashbrosxwii', 'tetrisdeluxds' |
20:09:51 [bobmcjr] | !stat w |
20:09:51 [Sacchi] | Choose one: 'smashbrosxwii', 'tetrisdeluxds' |
20:09:59 [bobmcjr] | ? |
20:10:25 [bobmcjr] | einstein95: Where is the w in tetrisdeluxds |
20:10:33 [bobmcjr] | !stat wi |
20:10:33 [Sacchi] | smashbrosxwii has 1 player. |
20:10:49 [einstein95] | bobmcjr: Not my script :v |
20:11:23 [bobmcjr] | ah. And sadly I can't seem to break this one |
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20:11:41 [vaguerant] | Server only seems to report Tetris Party Deluxe while you're actively in the search phase. |
20:11:56 [bobmcjr] | !stat w |
20:11:56 [Sacchi] | smashbrosxwii has 1 player. |
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20:18:17 [vaguerant] | I guess Tetris Party Deluxe is sorta worth having even if you already have Tetris. It has Bombliss at least, I don't think Nintendo's had that, did it? |
20:18:30 [vaguerant] | *already have Tetris DS |
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20:20:06 [Nagato] | vaguerant, it only shows people searching for a game |
20:20:10 [Nagato] | it won't show people simplly logged in |
20:20:19 [Nagato] | it's easy to add that, though, i guess |
20:20:41 [vaguerant] | Is that true of all games, or TPD specifically? |
20:20:46 [Nagato] | all games |
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20:20:57 [Nagato] | if the "maxplayers" field is <= 0 then it won't show up on the list |
20:21:12 [Nagato] | and "maxplayers" will be > 0 if you are actually searching for a game |
20:21:24 [nyn] | ehi guys |
20:21:34 [nyn] | there's anyone? |
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20:22:37 [nyn] | ehi |
20:22:55 [nyn] | really.....there's any1? |
20:23:02 [vaguerant] | !stat bom |
20:23:02 [Sacchi] | bomberman20ds has 1 player. |
20:23:07 [vaguerant] | Yeah, there's a few people about. |
20:23:21 [vaguerant] | I'm just sitting on the main WFC menu for Bomberman. |
20:23:34 [nyn] | well...hallelujah :) |
20:23:34 [Prof9] | hm Sacchi doesn't respond to VERSION? |
20:23:48 [nyn] | but the alternative servers works? |
20:23:48 [vaguerant] | With like "Friend Battle", "Bomber Dojo" (non-friend), "Update Ranking" (leaderboard shit) and "Options". |
20:23:54 [Prof9] | that's a rule on Rizon |
20:23:58 [Nagato] | i'm looking at the code now, and for some reason i'm not seeing where i put the maxplayers stuff at :? |
20:24:07 [Prof9] | ctrl+f |
20:24:26 [Nagato] | i could've swore i put that code in there, anyway... oh well |
20:25:04 [Nagato] | it's just getting every server from the server list now then |
20:25:33 [Nagato] | (and you don't have to be searching for a game to be added to the server list) |
20:25:51 [Nagato] | (the heartbeat sends the information about the client's state which is what we use) |
20:26:05 [vaguerant] | Which brings us back to it being weird that Tetris Party Deluxe doesn't seem to be added until you're in search phase. :p |
20:26:17 [Nagato] | then that's entirely on the game |
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20:26:26 [Prof9] | I'm rolling out WfcReplay v0.5 |
20:26:27 [Prof9] | https://github.com/Prof9/wfcreplay/releases |
20:26:35 [Prof9] | Pokémon should now work |
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20:26:51 [Prof9] | this will probably be the last release for a while unless any bugs are found |
20:26:51 [vaguerant] | Nice job, that should be popular. |
20:29:23 [vaguerant] | Oof, that is a nice option. |
20:29:43 [vaguerant] | Once you've created your profile in TPD, the next startup has two options on the title screen. |
20:29:59 [vaguerant] | "Start Game" and "Play Tetris!" |
20:30:07 [vaguerant] | The former takes you into the full menu system. |
20:30:21 [vaguerant] | The latter just kicks you right into a normal game with default rules. |
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20:30:33 [vaguerant] | Pretty smooth. |
20:31:20 [Nagato] | Prof9, d(゜-^*) hopefully this solves most of our issues then |
20:31:52 [Nagato] | we can probably make a guide on how to use this with desmume and flashcarts, and also how to make it work with a real ARDS |
20:31:57 [Nagato] | and then get rid of the current patcher tool |
20:32:05 [Nagato] | since that breaks on a number of things |
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20:34:47 [Prof9] | eh, I'd keep the manual tool around for edge cases |
20:34:58 [Prof9] | like flashcards with shitty AP patching |
20:35:07 [Prof9] | and prepatched ROMs |
20:35:36 [Prof9] | are you sure you want to officially support DeSmuME? lol |
20:36:12 [Prof9] | I haven't tried HeartGold and SoulSilver but hopefully they work |
20:36:33 [Nagato] | probably not :V |
20:36:36 [Nagato] | (support desmume) |
20:41:49 [Prof9] | I'll put the ARDS thing above the ROM patch thing in the wiki |
20:41:58 [Prof9] | and add it's the most reliable |
20:42:02 [vaguerant] | Yay. |
20:45:03 [bobmcjr2] | !stat smash |
20:45:03 [Sacchi] | smashbrosxwii has 2 players. |
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20:48:53 [SrDragoon] | Ahh, Committee already left.. DQ9's DQVC works, interestingly enough it does not make a call to SE's server at all, but it does a few download calls... |
20:49:03 [bobmcjr2] | Smash bros anyone? |
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20:49:41 [vaguerant] | From where? |
20:49:49 [vaguerant] | @SrDragoon |
20:49:57 [SrDragoon] | it only uses NAS for everything |
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20:50:09 [vaguerant] | Huh, nice. |
20:50:21 [mib785] | Whats nice :D |
20:50:24 [SrDragoon] | which puzzled me in the beginning because I kept wondering how altwfc was making it work |
20:51:06 [bobmcjr2] | !stat |
20:51:06 [Sacchi] | 'smashbrosxwii' |
20:51:09 [Pikachu025] | btw if it helps |
20:51:16 [Pikachu025] | https://www.mediafire.com/?7fdd1197f02jitc |
20:51:17 [Sacchi] | YDQE |
20:51:51 [Pikachu025] | i somehow ended up with two different DLC sets while I was downloading stuff from DLS1, might help with figuring out the format |
20:52:40 [SrDragoon] | oh I didn't see that in the gamecd list in the source.. Maybe I had an older copy |
20:53:45 [Prof9] | v0.5 codes should be good enough to start building a database I think |
20:53:58 [Prof9] | so people don't need ROMs |
20:54:42 [bobmcjr2] | Although considering AR's don't even work on 3ds' anymore |
20:54:59 [einstein95] | bobmcjr2: Flashcard + NitroHax :V |
20:55:01 [vaguerant] | I thought the DSi Action Replay worked. |
20:55:15 [Prof9] | you can't use NitroHax on a 3DS |
20:55:19 [bobmcjr2] | Yep |
20:55:31 [Prof9] | the 3DS cuts power to slot-1 when a game cart is removed |
20:55:37 [Prof9] | so you can't swap it out |
20:55:41 [vaguerant] | Oh, nice. |
20:55:51 [vaguerant] | I mean, it sucks, but it's a good idea. |
20:55:56 [vaguerant] | Nice for them. |
20:56:03 [bobmcjr2] | The last action replay update was for 6.X,and i guarantee ninty blocked it since |
20:56:07 [Prof9] | iirc anyway |
20:56:10 [einstein95] | Yeah, that's why WooD DUmper doesn't work |
20:56:31 [Prof9] | really? I saw a comment in a news post about 7.0 saying ARDSi worked |
20:56:36 [bobmcjr2] | Hmm |
20:57:03 [bobmcjr2] | The last firmware i saw on codejunkies was for 6.x |
20:57:35 [Prof9] | well if it ain't broken |
20:57:57 [einstein95] | http://uk.codejunkies.com/support/article.aspx?article_id=453 |
20:57:58 [Sacchi] | Knowledgebase - Codejunkies |
20:58:24 [bobmcjr2] | Yeah thats what i saw |
21:01:40 [bobmcjr2] | !stat |
21:01:40 [Sacchi] | 'smashbrosxwii' |
21:01:47 [bobmcjr2] | !stat ash |
21:01:47 [Sacchi] | smashbrosxwii has 2 players. |
21:02:00 [einstein95] | !stat brawl |
21:02:00 [Sacchi] | No one is using a game like "brawl" |
21:03:16 [Prof9] | so what does DWC stand for anyway? |
21:03:19 [Prof9] | DNS Wi-Fi Connection? |
21:04:00 [einstein95] | Apparently Gamespy never knew, so I dunno |
21:04:27 [mib785] | its great that Nintendo WFC allows you to just change the DNS IP address |
21:04:28 [mib785] | hahahha |
21:05:16 [Prof9] | einstein95: wait, what? |
21:05:50 [einstein95] | http://docs.poweredbygamespy.com/wiki/How_does_GameSpy_support_the_Nintendo_Wii_%26_DS%3F |
21:05:51 [vaguerant] | I was going to guess "DS Wi-Fi Connection". |
21:05:51 [Sacchi] | How does GameSpy support the Nintendo Wii & DS? - Powered by GameSpy Wiki |
21:05:58 [vaguerant] | Since that's what it was first. |
21:06:03 [mib785] | I have a question |
21:06:18 [mib785] | How many users does this server really support, until it starts lagging |
21:06:27 [einstein95] | Nagato: http://www.poweredbygamespy.com/2009/07/17/guinness-world-records-iphone/ "Guinness World Records began its life as a videogame on the Nintendo DS platform, where the developer used GameSpy’s Sake cloud data storage technology (a standard part of the Nintendo DWC online services library) to power its record keeping." |
21:06:28 [Sacchi] | Guinness World Records (iPhone) | GameSpy Technology |
21:06:35 [Prof9] | hah |
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21:21:36 [Team_Fail] | heyoo |
21:21:41 [Team_Fail] | now that i'm home |
21:25:18 [bobmcjr2] | Brawl? |
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21:26:50 [mib785] | Jump stars anyone |
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21:31:15 [Marusame] | !stat |
21:31:15 [Sacchi] | 'mprimeds', 'smashbrosxwii' |
21:31:25 [mib785] | What is wimmfii ? |
21:31:28 [mib785] | i hear it alot |
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21:31:48 [Gerisk] | hi |
21:32:55 [einstein95] | mib785: Another alternate WFC service |
21:33:03 [mib785] | for even DS |
21:33:03 [mib785] | ? |
21:33:25 [bobmcjr2] | Yeah, but it's more closed and apparently altwfc handles brawl better |
21:34:07 [mib785] | o.o |
21:34:13 [mib785] | altwfc FTW, im loving it |
21:34:18 [Marusame] | so brawl isnt a lagfest of laggy laggedness mclagenstien the IVth? |
21:34:20 [mib785] | so reliable |
21:34:26 [mib785] | ahahhahahahahhaha |
21:34:30 [Team_Fail] | lmao |
21:35:01 [mib785] | Sadly nintendo couldn't even handle brawl (from what i heard) |
21:35:03 [mib785] | lazy buggers |
21:35:34 [bobmcjr2] | Altwfc handles brawl better in that you don't disconnect as randomly and often |
21:35:36 [Gerisk] | I have one question, is it possible to play rock band 3 on private servers? |
21:35:45 [Marusame] | only truly online game on a nintendo product that just worked that i played was AC3 i bought for my wii u cause i desperiatly needed a reason to turn it on. |
21:35:47 [bobmcjr2] | And the actual brawl matches are P2P anyway |
21:36:02 [mib785] | Oh sorry xD |
21:36:15 [mib785] | This might be abit of a crazy thing to recommend |
21:36:27 [mib785] | but could the match making process be sped up (by modifying the server) |
21:36:30 [Marusame] | ac3 actually worked online on wii u, flawlessly no lag |
21:37:14 [Marusame] | im like whoa... they did it. now i have higher hopes for smash bros wii u, and mario kart 8 |
21:38:00 [bobmcjr2] | I wonder if those will be infrastructure based... |
21:38:33 [Marusame] | i used the PID tool, when its done does that mean my old friend code will be applied to the private server so i dont have to delete my save? |
21:38:49 [bobmcjr2] | Thats not our tool (?) |
21:39:22 [vaguerant] | Yeah, that's Wiimmfi stuff, not related to altwfc. |
21:39:41 [Marusame] | thats odd so where does THAT connect to? |
21:39:43 [Team_Fail] | ooooh |
21:39:44 [Team_Fail] | i wonder |
21:39:55 [Team_Fail] | can the server deliver rockband and guitar hero content? |
21:40:16 [bobmcjr2] | The dlc should still be wii shop channel based |
21:40:23 [einstein95] | ^ |
21:40:44 [Marusame] | http://forum.wii-homebrew.com/board42-kreativitaet/mkw-server-project-english/51831-wiipid-extractor/?s=26149626d67fc5e6cacfa74cb86983fb7ef80d4f |
21:40:49 [Sacchi] | Wiipid extractor - MKW-Server Project (English) - Wii-Homebrew.com Forum |
21:41:02 [Team_Fail] | i know some of it was pulled a while back, and in them doing so, blocked off some of the awards you can get, then again, you can always just pirate them and install them with a WAD manager |
21:41:03 [Marusame] | so thats a different thing entrely? |
21:41:25 [einstein95] | Yeah |
21:41:29 [Marusame] | i wish installing wads was easier and less risky |
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21:41:39 [bobmcjr2] | How is it risky? |
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21:42:18 [Marusame] | i actually bought kirby, link to the past, and paper mario but had to return the wii i had since it was a rent a center thing since no one could get one |
21:42:35 [einstein95] | Heading to school, back later |
21:42:42 [Marusame] | but when i unlinked it and relinked my account i found that nintendo forgot to put in a way to redownload the shit you bought |
21:42:42 [gamerkid522] | hello |
21:42:58 [bobmcjr2] | There is no account |
21:43:09 [bobmcjr2] | For wii shop purchases |
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21:43:27 [Marusame] | i linked my nintendo coin thing account which still shows i have bought those games |
21:43:44 [Marusame] | you can link an account to the wii |
21:43:49 [bobmcjr2] | And that is all it does :P |
21:43:58 [bobmcjr2] | Coins/stars, and nothing more |
21:44:07 [einstein95] | It's not like the 3DS or Wii U |
21:44:17 [Marusame] | ya cause they got alot of shit for it |
21:44:28 [bobmcjr2] | 3ds and wii u are still pretty bad |
21:44:32 [bobmcjr2] | In that regard |
21:44:41 [Marusame] | so any wii purchase is regarded as a one time use to me |
21:44:57 [bobmcjr2] | Or yknow, use yabdm and back the wads up |
21:44:57 [Marusame] | ya i have a ps3 and 360 as well, hell even the original xbox did it better :P |
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21:45:38 [Marusame] | too late now, the console was never hacked and was returned and that was years and years ago |
21:45:59 [Marusame] | when you still couldnt find a wii in stores |
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21:47:02 [msoucy] | Greetings |
21:47:20 [Marusame] | well i found out about priiloader which is easier ot use and install than mii2 thingy, and was able to unlock locked saves |
21:47:40 [bobmcjr2] | Still, what is risky about installing wads? |
21:48:11 [Marusame] | idk the process i found made it seem like you are ripping the system software then using that copy to play from and other things |
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21:49:09 [mib785] | bobmcjr2, ur famous |
21:49:22 [msoucy] | Is polaris- or one of the other developers available? |
21:49:31 [mib785] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbXKErKWK-4 (at 9:00) |
21:49:31 [Sacchi] | Mario Kart Wii Online (after shutdown) :: 30:52 :: Unrated :: 14 Views :: 0 Ratings |
21:49:50 [mib785] | at (9:00) |
21:50:09 [Marusame] | hey thats my video >.< |
21:50:16 [mib785] | O.O |
21:50:22 [mib785] | Wow, shit I didnt EVEN NOTICE |
21:50:27 [mib785] | epic vid |
21:50:33 [bobmcjr2] | Wonderful.. |
21:50:33 [msoucy] | I'd like to discuss the Pythonic conversion... |
21:50:42 [Nagato] | msoucy, i'm polaris- |
21:50:51 [msoucy] | aah, alright, thanks |
21:51:05 [Team_Fail] | uggh. someone hacked the forum |
21:51:07 [msoucy] | is it fine to talk implementation details in this channel or would you prefer PM? |
21:51:14 [mib785] | what recorded are you using marumsame ? |
21:51:14 [Team_Fail] | i can't post, make a thread, or log into my control panels |
21:51:19 [Nagato] | come to the dev channel (check the topic) |
21:51:53 [Prof9] | hacked the forum? haha what |
21:51:57 [msoucy] | aah, sorry - I didn't see the scoll thing for the topic |
21:51:59 [msoucy] | thank you |
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21:53:03 [Marusame] | my youtube account is over 7 years old :P |
21:53:40 [Marusame] | Joined Jun 22, 2006 dang, makes me feel old |
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21:55:04 [EthanObi] | Hey. |
21:55:17 [EthanObi] | I'm having trouble making a GCT file out of the ocarina code, Any help? |
21:55:45 [Prof9] | maybe we should upload some pre-made GCT files |
21:56:12 [EthanObi] | I tried using the online gct maker but it says invalid code.. |
21:56:22 [bobmcjr2] | What usbloader are you using? |
21:56:29 [EthanObi] | USBLoader GX |
21:57:26 [bobmcjr2] | Download the premade code txt file for what game you want in GX, add the nossl one at the bottom, and go to ocarina in GX for the game and click create |
21:57:42 [EthanObi] | Okay |
21:57:43 [Marusame] | im using the CFG loader, i was going to install GX for the wads but it wants me to install yet another series of cios files |
21:58:18 [bobmcjr2] | You can edit the config for gx to use the ones you habe |
21:58:21 [bobmcjr2] | Have |
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21:59:04 [Marusame] | i think its 248 249 and even though i have a degree in computers and networking.. all the cios stuff baffles me |
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22:02:03 [bobmcjr2] | !stat |
22:02:03 [Sacchi] | 'smashbrosxwii' |
22:02:09 [bobmcjr2] | !stat x |
22:02:09 [Sacchi] | smashbrosxwii has 1 player. |
22:02:20 [Marusame] | was following this guide http://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-softmod-a-wii-and-play-backup-wii-gamecube-and-wiiware-games.360687/ but a ways in i found all the installers to be in french and didnt want to try and fix what wasnt broken |
22:02:22 [Sacchi] | How to SoftMod a Wii and play backup Wii, Gamecube and Wiiware Games | GBAtemp.net -> The Independent Video Game Community: 3DS, Gateway 3DS, NDS and R4, Wii, PSP, PS4, Xbox One and all the gaming universe |
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22:03:35 [Marusame] | guess ill have to delete my smash bros save in order to play online, i can use a cheat to unlock the characters just fine (or spend 3 hours fighting against a 2nd controller and get like 400 matches :/ ) but Subspace emisarry will still have to be rebeat |
22:04:07 [bobmcjr2] | Theres another slightly more complicated way to save your data and still play online |
22:04:23 [Marusame] | im all for it for smash bros. too many hours into it |
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22:04:39 [Naughx] | your online friend code is stored in net0 |
22:04:55 [bobmcjr2] | Fill net0/net1 with 0xFF |
22:04:56 [mib785] | !stat |
22:04:56 [Sacchi] | 'smashbrosxwii' |
22:05:17 [bobmcjr2] | Don't delete them, just replace every byte with 0xFF |
22:05:32 [Naughx] | 0xFF or 0x00 |
22:06:02 [Marusame] | ehh i have no idea what you mean, im assuming a hex editor or something but what where how i still dont know |
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22:06:26 [Naughx] | yes maru |
22:06:48 [Naughx] | Or I could do it for you. |
22:06:58 [Naughx] | Just give me your save file. :D |
22:07:18 [Marusame] | actually i did copy my save over cause i unlocked locked files |
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22:08:09 [bobmcjr2] | Hmm Wolf is spazzing out on brawl |
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22:09:52 [Prof9] | as long as it breaks the checksum |
22:10:00 [bboy_] | hello |
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22:10:26 [bboy_] | >looking for help with wii polaris server |
22:10:36 [Marusame] | now if i can find it on the sd card |
22:10:52 [Marusame] | ah under private |
22:11:12 [Naughx] | @Prof9, the crc32 checksum is at the end of the file. |
22:11:25 [bboy_] | i was able to connect to the server with tatsunoko vs capcom. we can connect, but no matches are connecting |
22:11:38 [bobmcjr2] | Is anyone else playing? |
22:12:30 [bboy_] | i was in chat with another player and we were both searching free battle, but no match was made |
22:12:44 [mib785] | !stat |
22:12:45 [Sacchi] | 'smashbrosxwii', 'mariokartwii' |
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22:13:09 [Marusame] | i think this is my smash bros save https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XLbX5skDLMOGlhQVNXNzRWZWc/edit?usp=sharing |
22:13:10 [Sacchi] | data.bin - Google Drive |
22:13:49 [bobmcjr2] | Use dolphin to unpack and repack it unless you already have tachtig/twintig set up |
22:14:52 [Marusame] | i dont know what the tachtig is |
22:15:04 [Naughx] | I never was able to repack with dolphin. |
22:15:21 [bobmcjr2] | It's gotten better |
22:15:22 [Naughx] | Well. A working save |
22:15:36 [Marusame] | i do have dolphin but i dont use it often, even with a 4870, 16 gigs of ram, and a quard core 2.66 processor the games dont run to well |
22:15:44 [bobmcjr2] | Btw, i ported Tachtig/Twintig to java. That was fun.. |
22:15:57 [bboy_] | yikes @ maru |
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22:16:15 [FleshVortex] | figures, I accidentally delete my mkds rom, and try to patch a new one....white screens galore |
22:16:27 [Prof9] | AR codes are better |
22:16:47 [bobmcjr2] | Xdelta is best |
22:16:57 [Prof9] | nonsense |
22:17:01 [Prof9] | you wanna fight over it? |
22:17:11 [bobmcjr2] | Yes. |
22:17:20 [Naughx] | Dolphin includes the md5-blanker, sd-iv and sd-key in its source code. |
22:17:35 [bobmcjr2] | Yep |
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22:21:08 [Marusame] | damn dont have the iso, ill rip it, transfer it over to the pc and do that business so ic an load smash bros unless i dont need the iso to pack a save |
22:21:28 [bobmcjr2] | You dont |
22:21:42 [bobmcjr2] | Ah heck. Give me a moment and ill fix your save |
22:22:36 [Team_Fail] | i should dl mkwii and patch it and play it sometime |
22:22:41 [Team_Fail] | i never did actually get that game |
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22:22:51 [Prof9] | you should buy it |
22:23:03 [Team_Fail] | probably when i can afford it |
22:23:09 [Team_Fail] | or else borrow the disc and rip it lol |
22:23:16 [Team_Fail] | or buy it and rip it |
22:23:19 [Team_Fail] | or something like that |
22:23:25 [Team_Fail] | if target ever has it on sale that'd be cool |
22:23:32 [Marusame] | ya, its a large file, so be prepared for that |
22:23:41 [Team_Fail] | i have a 3TB hard drive |
22:23:44 [Team_Fail] | i'm not worried in the least |
22:24:11 [Marusame] | ah, ive tried a few times burning it to dvd and it never works and no program on the wii ive found was able to play it |
22:24:38 [Team_Fail] | i have some USB loaders that work nicely |
22:26:26 [Team_Fail] | and i've backed up pretty much all my games at the moment |
22:26:31 [FleshVortex] | meh, Days of Ruin, I get that war is supposed to be bland & depressing, but it just felt so odd compared to prev games |
22:26:41 [bobmcjr] | Marusame: https://anonfiles.com/file/8495822a14a69b9c89817fc5ddd60c54 |
22:27:47 [Marusame] | weird uploader heh |
22:28:08 [Naughx] | Funny how SSBB save file doesn't have many checksums. |
22:28:26 [bobmcjr2] | SmashStack |
22:28:36 [Marusame] | well i guess they figured since its treated as a locked file the rest of it they didnt need to be secure about |
22:29:43 [bobmcjr2] | Hooray, i got my old save with my new wifi data set up |
22:30:35 [bobmcjr2] | Genosync, brawl? |
22:30:36 [Prof9] | checksum isn't just used to prevent data tampering |
22:31:47 [bobmcjr2] | My WWDIY showcase modifier doesn't fix the checksums, but the game doesn't truly delete anything (although it says it will) |
22:32:12 [bobmcjr2] | Can't figure out those checksums for the life of me |
22:33:39 [FleshVortex] | yep was patching with the wrong method |
22:34:42 [Marusame] | hmm its saying the wfc data is corrupt delete and create a new one? |
22:34:48 [bobmcjr2] | Yes |
22:34:50 [Marusame] | im assuming yes |
22:35:13 [Marusame] | so this is just a purposely corrupting that part so it forces a new wfc? |
22:35:29 [Naughx] | Yes |
22:35:33 [Marusame] | hmm neat |
22:35:49 [Marusame] | though youd of thought they would of included an option like the ds to just.. idk.. do that yourself? |
22:36:33 [Marusame] | yay i connected |
22:36:59 [Naughx] | :D |
22:37:21 [Team_Fail] | bobmcjr: It's now possible to keep saves while resetting wfc data now? |
22:37:28 [bobmcjr2] | Yes |
22:37:42 [bobmcjr2] | For brawl at least |
22:37:43 [Team_Fail] | i'll have to see what data i have on my wii i can convert |
22:37:45 [Team_Fail] | ah |
22:38:02 [bobmcjr2] | If it uses net1/net0 files then yes |
22:38:14 [Team_Fail] | and how would i know what it uses? |
22:38:31 [bobmcjr2] | Savegamemanagergx |
22:38:47 [Team_Fail] | ah |
22:38:50 [Naughx] | In mario kart wii it is way harder since it store the friend code in the same place than the game save data |
22:39:43 [Naughx] | rksys.dat |
22:42:27 [Marusame] | !stat |
22:42:27 [Sacchi] | 'smashbrosxwii' |
22:42:35 [bobmcjr2] | I quit |
22:43:08 [mib785] | !stat |
22:43:08 [Sacchi] | 'smashbrosxwii' |
22:43:49 [Marusame] | !stat smashbrosxwii |
22:43:49 [Sacchi] | smashbrosxwii has 2 players. |
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22:46:28 [helpme] | hello |
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22:49:18 [Marusame] | i recorded that last match |
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22:51:27 [bobmcjr2] | Im on again |
22:51:44 [helpme] | hello bob |
22:51:51 [Marusame] | oh, im gonna try to get usb loader gx going |
22:52:16 [Marusame] | will installing more cios stuff mess with things? |
22:52:27 [bobmcjr2] | Probably not |
22:53:04 [helpme] | hey bob do you remember from yesterday? do i need anything else other than DS phat/lite/i and a action replay along with WfcReplay v0.5 |
22:53:26 [helpme] | for retail card to connect? |
22:54:18 [einstein95] | Nope, that should be it |
22:54:37 [bobmcjr2] | No. But keep in mind that if it's a dsi, you need an action replay dsi |
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23:00:34 [helpme] | i got a dslite |
23:02:14 [helpme] | for instance will this one work http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ACTION-REPLAY-FOR-3DS-DSi-XL-DS-LITE-POKEMON-BLACK-WHITE-CHEATS-NINTENDO-3D-NEW-/110822909134 |
23:02:16 [Sacchi] | Action Replay FOR 3DS DSI XL DS Lite Pokemon Black White Cheats Nintendo 3D NEW | eBay |
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23:02:59 [helpme] | says on the box image all ds |
23:04:52 [bobmcjr2] | Dslite works with everything |
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23:06:20 [mib785] | DS lite owns |
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23:15:03 [Marusame] | is there a CFG loader wad? hmm itd be nice if i had a wii menu quicklink of it |
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23:18:51 [mib785] | i cant seem to get mkds to work |
23:19:07 [mib785] | using AR code for nossl |
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23:26:04 [Marusame] | dammit none of the usb loaders besides cfg can seem to load the no ssl code right |
23:26:45 [BarronWaffles] | GX loads it fine |
23:26:49 [BarronWaffles] | Use a txt code |
23:27:04 [Marusame] | i am hmm maybe its reading the wrong text file |
23:27:24 [Marusame] | cause the ocarina menu for the text codes shows some blank named ones |
23:27:41 [BarronWaffles] | Ah |
23:27:42 [Marusame] | and i already made a gct with teh codes which it doesnt seem to load |
23:27:50 [BarronWaffles] | I'll grab my SD card and pastebin an example |
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23:28:28 [FleshVortex] | that fail when a 3DS can detect a wifi hotspot, but the Wii can't |
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23:29:10 [BarronWaffles] | http://pastebin.com/qCS4xtEq |
23:29:10 [Sacchi] | example - R7FEGD.txt - Pastebin.com |
23:29:28 [BarronWaffles] | SD:\txtcodes\ |
23:30:08 [Marusame] | ya thats how mine is set up for the most part |
23:30:47 [Marusame] | im just gonna make sure the first option is the wii online code this time |
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23:32:35 [Marusame] | i guess it needed the brackets |
23:33:45 [Marusame] | yay connected |
23:33:47 [BarronWaffles] | Yeah |
23:33:52 [BarronWaffles] | Cool |
23:35:39 [Marusame] | wiiflow is pretty cool |
23:36:49 [BarronWaffles] | A text mode USB loader would be nice |
23:37:34 [Marusame] | you mean like starting up the wii and maybe with something like priiloader just jump to a text screen of all the hdd games? |
23:38:29 [BarronWaffles] | Yeah, a USB loader with a text interface |
23:39:18 [Marusame] | i find it hilarious that the usb hdd im using is an old 20 gig xbox 360 hdd with the transfer cable |
23:39:34 [BarronWaffles] | That's pretty baller. |
23:40:06 [Marusame] | thinking of just turning my 120 gig into a wii thing |
23:41:37 [Marusame] | got it working with wiiflow too now |
23:41:44 [Marusame] | so i got the no ssl working with 3 usb loaders |
23:44:23 [Naughx] | I use an emunand for savegames with wiiflow |
23:47:17 [Marusame] | actualy itd be better if i sold my 120 and just bought like a 500 gig external drive |
23:47:32 [Marusame] | though one cool thing about the xbox 360 drive is they run off usb power |
23:52:26 [Genosync] | Anyone here know how to get my PID data over to this server? |
23:52:32 [Genosync] | So I don't have to delete my Brawl save on a different wii? |
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23:59:08 [bobmcjr3] | genosync: you can wipe the wfC data while keeping the rest intact |
23:59:55 [Genosync] | I'm trying to find solutions for the community because most are boo-hooing about their saves |
23:59:59 [Genosync] | and this being so hard to switch and wah wah |