IRC log of altwfc on 2014-05-26

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00:01:07 [qweasdqsfvr]Anyone want to join jump ultimate stars ?
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00:05:40 [helpme]hello does anyone know which action replay i need to connect to this server?
00:05:50 [helpme]im going to go out and buy one soon
00:06:15 [bobmcjr_]which type of ds do you have?
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00:07:24 [helpme]3ds
00:07:46 [bobmcjr_]action replay 3ds then (I think it still works)
00:08:22 [helpme]just want to make sure
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00:11:36 [FleshVortex]decided to download HexChat for IRC usage
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00:13:22 [helpme]does Prof. 9's WfcReplay v0.4.1 codes work for pokemon white? i read in the read me doesnt work for black and white 2 not sure about the first ones
00:13:36 [bobmcjr_]Prof9?
00:13:53 [Prof9]afaik there are no supported features for BW1 yet so it doesn't matter either way
00:14:08 [Prof9]as for whether it works, try it out and tell me
00:14:11 [Pipian]BW1 should theoretically support Wi-Fi Club
00:14:15 [Pipian]Although I’ve heard that it doesn’t
00:14:25 [helpme]on the emulator im in the wifi room already
00:14:42 [Pipian](Possibly because it expects a slightly different version of the GameSpy protocol, and definitely uses a different version of the NATNEG protocol)
00:14:47 [Prof9]v0.5 will probably work
00:14:54 [Prof9]if v0.4.1 doesn't already
00:14:57 [FleshVortex]trying to get my devices to connect to this Xfinity Hotspot
00:15:08 [FleshVortex]needless to say, its being stubborn as an old mule
00:15:16 [helpme]im still not sure what action replay to use on 3ds though
00:15:42 [helpme]theres power save action replay and the normal dsi action replay with 3ds update
00:16:15 [Pipian]If I’m reading right
00:16:16 [bobmcjr_]you don't want powersave
00:16:24 [Pipian]There are no good Action Replays for the 3DS
00:16:31 [Pipian]If you’ve been keeping the firmware up to date
00:16:35 [Pipian]But definitely not the Powersave
00:16:41 [helpme]just need one to connect to this server
00:17:06 [helpme]and hope the code works on bw1
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00:18:33 [helpme]so i should get the normal action replay then?
00:18:40 [bobmcjr_]umm no
00:19:19 [bobmcjr_]the last update for the action replay was for firmware 6.X, and because they initially blocked flashcarts in 7.X, I'm assuming the action replay was blocked too
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00:20:48 [bobmcjr_]tldr; no action replay will work on your 3ds. You need a flash cart
00:20:59 [helpme]ohh
00:21:23 [helpme]flash cart will still allow retail game to join the server?
00:21:52 [bobmcjr_]No. You'll have to use a rom (unless you're using a DS Phat/Lite)
00:22:54 [bobmcjr_]The only way to play that online is with a DS Phat/Lite/i
00:23:01 [bobmcjr_](a real cart)
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00:27:40 [helpme]not sure what you mean with ds lite
00:28:03 [helpme]do you mean i can use action replay on the ds lite to connect to the server with a retail card?
00:28:23 [bobmcjr_]yes
00:28:40 [bobmcjr_]If you use an action replay on a DS Lite or a DS Original/Phat, it will definitely work
00:28:51 [bobmcjr_](the action replay, not neccessarily the code)
00:29:00 [helpme]ok then imma go buy the ds action replay and go borrow my friends ds lite lol hopefully everything works
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00:33:19 [Marusame]im trying to put the wii online no ssl ocarina code in geckocodes.org but it wont let me select it, says its not a code
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00:34:52 [Marusame]anyone have a .gct for mario kart wii that has the online code? i cannot seem to use this ocarina code at all even though it was made for ocarina usb loaders
00:35:38 [Videoman87]I haven't been able to get the code to work at all either. I just use brainslug for the moment.
00:36:11 [Marusame]i dont have an actual disc of mario cart so i have to use a .gct code which i just recently figured out how to do
00:36:40 [Videoman87]Well if you want to try it....first which loader do you use?
00:37:07 [Marusame]CFG v70r65
00:37:32 [Marusame]i was able to do cheats from geckocodes.org
00:37:41 [Videoman87]ahh I don't use that one
00:37:56 [Marusame]but that website wont let me convert it, it says its not a code
00:38:58 [Marusame]http://www.geckocodes.org/?c=RMCE01 the normal gct converter works you add the codes before hand then you select the boxes but some of the codes just bring up the edit code window when you attempt to check the box
00:38:59 [Sacchi]Codes: Mario Kart Wii [RMCE01] (NTSC-US) at GeckoCodes.org - WiiRD Code Database
00:39:20 [Videoman87]ok here is another method let me get the app link
00:39:23 [bobmcjr_]@ToadKing I sent more NoSSL patches
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00:45:55 [Videoman87]not sure if my last message made it though, connection burped I think anyway try this http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/CheatManager to generate your gct code
00:45:56 [Sacchi]CheatManager - WiiBrew
00:46:34 [DJPlace]back
00:46:48 [DJPlace]let's see if using this thing helps
00:48:12 [Marusame]testing now
00:50:33 [Marusame]oooh actually sees the codes an di can enable it
00:50:43 [Videoman87]:)
00:50:45 [Marusame]wiicm just died
00:50:51 [Marusame]when ever i tried it
00:51:50 [Videoman87]you might also like http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Code_Downloader
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00:51:51 [Sacchi]Code Downloader - WiiBrew
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00:52:03 [bobmcjr_]!stat
00:52:03 [Sacchi]'mprimeds', 'dqmonjoker2ds', 'syachi2ds'
00:52:16 [Marusame]i think i have code downloader but this is the http://save-nintendo-wifi.com/wii-nossl-ocarina.txt thing
00:52:40 [Videoman87]allows you to download codes directly to the wii and enable/diable with cheat manager
00:53:21 [Videoman87]ah ok, and I knew what you code you were trying to use
00:53:57 [bobmcjr_]!stat
00:53:57 [Sacchi]'mprimeds', 'dqmonjoker2ds', 'syachi2ds', 'madeinoreds'
00:54:05 [bobmcjr_]!stat madeinoreds
00:54:05 [Sacchi]madeinoreds has 1 player.
00:54:10 [Marusame]got my dns changed on the wii, did the offline dns changer
00:54:26 [Marusame]then im trying to use this code so mario kart can work
00:56:10 [Videoman87]I hope it works for you, I coudln't get the code to work with any games I tried. Brainslug worked. If you can't get the code to work, I suggest getting Wiimm's patcher and patching your game directly
00:58:19 [Marusame]brainslug wont work for usb games will it?
00:59:19 [Videoman87]nope
00:59:26 [Videoman87]it is disc only
00:59:47 [Marusame]god a different error this time
00:59:53 [Videoman87]if the code doesn't work for you, your only other option at the moment is wiimm's patcher
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01:00:02 [Videoman87]which one?
01:00:10 [Marusame]error code 60000
01:00:18 [Videoman87]ok that means your profile is not on the server
01:00:20 [Floober]Evening :P
01:00:34 [bobmcjr_]Animal Crossing Wild World anyone?
01:00:50 [Videoman87]so you either have to use the profile extractor or clear your game save and start anew
01:00:54 [Floober]Definitely when I get home
01:01:14 [Marusame]oh so erase my liscense
01:01:36 [Marusame]im going to use a cheat to unlock everything cause.. well id like to use all the characters so a full liscense
01:01:46 [Marusame]no other cheats though
01:02:10 [Videoman87]http://maschell.de/pidtool.zip that is the extractor
01:03:00 [Marusame]nah i just erased it, i only had like an hour on it besides the online i played before it went offline
01:03:04 [SrDragoon]Ok, I can confirm that Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2 works for matchmaking (Battles)
01:03:17 [Videoman87]ahh well not important then heh
01:03:25 [Marusame]ooh it connected
01:03:36 [Videoman87]yes it should work fine now
01:03:48 [Videoman87]You will have a new friend code
01:03:49 [SrDragoon]I just fought my team on Desmume with my retail cart team .. obviously the retail cart won ;)
01:04:35 [DJPlace]this better work
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01:05:12 [Pipian]Videoman87: So we’ve fixed the “you have to delete your Wii save” bug?
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01:05:23 [DJPlace]just can't get my copy of sonic and sega all stars racing to copy to my laptop
01:05:37 [Marusame]searching for opponents...
01:05:38 [Pipian]We should add that to the Wiki if so
01:06:14 [Marusame]well i had to delete my save but thats fine, only one that will bum me out is the smash bros brawl one
01:07:00 [Videoman87]Not a bug per se, but there is a app to extract your friendcode/profile and upload it. That I posted earlier. It doesn't work for all games but it does work for a few. Mario kart, Animalcrossings and a few others
01:07:27 [Videoman87]I think it already is, at least one of the Wiki's
01:07:33 [Marusame]ooh found a game
01:07:47 [Pipian]Videoman87: I’ll add it to https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki
01:08:07 [Videoman87]http://forum.wii-homebrew.com/board42-kreativitaet/mkw-server-project-english/51831-wiipid-extractor/#post592245 the original forum link
01:08:12 [Sacchi]Wiipid extractor - MKW-Server Project (English) - Wii-Homebrew.com Forum
01:08:29 [BarronWaffles|IsSleeping]CFG USB loader?
01:08:37 [Marusame]ya
01:08:43 [BarronWaffles|IsSleeping]I'll check
01:08:55 [BarronWaffles|IsSleeping]Might be similar to GX
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01:09:45 [Nagato]the problem with that is
01:09:50 [Nagato]won't it only work for wiimm's server?
01:09:57 [Nagato]it won't do you any good for ours
01:09:59 [BarronWaffles]Ok, here is a basic guide
01:10:05 [BarronWaffles]http://wii.quintonmoran.com/how-to/use-ocarina-codes
01:10:16 [BarronWaffles]I'll upload a sample of something I used
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01:10:49 [Videoman87]http://wiki.tockdom.com/wiki/Wiimmfi_Project Ok at the bottom it talks about old profiles etc that is the wiki I was thinking of
01:10:52 [Sacchi]Wiimmfi Project - Custom Mario Kart
01:11:01 [Marusame]i did a race in mario kart wii
01:11:37 [Pipian]Do we have a place to upload extracted pids?
01:11:38 [Marusame]so i am running cfg the latest version with an gct created by cheat manager v.3 with that green dragon
01:11:40 [DJPlace]nice
01:12:03 [Videoman87]I think they are uploaded to wiimm's sever
01:12:07 [Videoman87]automatically
01:12:27 [Pipian]Well that’s not helpful for this effort :v
01:12:56 [Videoman87]which effort is that?
01:13:05 [Videoman87]A different sever I asume?
01:13:06 [Marusame]would be nice if all the geckocodes where updated with a wii no ssl bit for all teh wii online games
01:13:15 [Pipian]But http://ninrankings.org/getdata.php is everything I think
01:13:22 [Nagato]Videoman87, you're in the channel for altwfc. we have nothing to do with wiimm's server
01:13:36 [DJPlace]now i can test brawl
01:13:49 [einstein95]Videoman87: I wonder what one person with a http sniffer could do
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01:14:20 [BarronWaffles]http://pastebin.com/U4UNeTgP
01:14:20 [Sacchi]example - R4EE01.txt - Pastebin.com
01:14:29 [DJPlace]how many unoffical severs do we have atm?
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01:14:35 [Videoman87]Hard to say, we all sniffed packets to get where we are at the moment :)
01:14:54 [BarronWaffles]That was the file I had in my text codes folder
01:15:08 [BarronWaffles]CFG has the same function
01:15:32 [Pipian]DJPlace: Besides test servers?
01:15:37 [Pipian]I think there are only two real efforts
01:15:44 [Pipian]altwfc and wiimm
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01:15:58 [Pipian]I mean I’ve done some stuff on my own
01:16:03 [Pipian]But that’s just for testing purposes
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01:16:07 [DJPlace]what games have been tested on altwfc?
01:16:11 [Pipian]And not for “real consumption"
01:16:14 [Marusame]one thing to note is i had to rename the gct file that cheat manager v0.3 created to the games code like RMCE01.gct
01:16:16 [Pipian]DJPlace: quite a few
01:16:25 [DJPlace]nice
01:16:36 [Pipian]!save compatibility https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki/Compatibility
01:16:36 [Sacchi]Saved link 'compatibility'
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01:18:23 [Pipian]In addition, the following games have DLC that works
01:18:26 [Pipian]!save dlc https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki/Nintendo-DS-Download-Content
01:18:26 [Sacchi]Saved link 'dlc'
01:18:48 [Marusame]so i have gotten it to work on usb cfg 70r65 using a text file i got from geckocodes.org i added in the no ssl code, threw that in /textcodes so the cheat manager v.03 can see it created the gct went BACK to the sd card and renamed the file to teh proper game title RMCE01.gct
01:19:20 [BarronWaffles]It might also have a text code loader
01:19:39 [Marusame]then you press B in the launcher, then 1 and turn on ocarina cheats and just launch.. thats how i got mine to work
01:19:58 [Marusame]cfg needs it to be the game name as the file name
01:21:39 [Videoman87]they all do as far as I know
01:22:09 [Videoman87]well cheat manager doesn't care, if the title code is in the txt file
01:22:15 [Videoman87]and will rename it
01:23:13 [Marusame]heh ya i noticed
01:23:16 [Videoman87]or rather the created .gct file will have the proper name in it. But like you said renaming works well :)
01:23:42 [Marusame]just mean si have to toss the sd card to my pc an extra time
01:23:59 [BarronWaffles]ftpii helps
01:24:06 [BarronWaffles]I think that's what it's called?
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01:24:42 [DJPlace]think i messed up getting castlevania online...
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01:25:42 [Marusame]oohhh i think it wont let me do this one code cause it has extra info in the thing.. so i gotta go back and delete the added info in these cheat codes for cheat manager v0.3
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01:26:21 [Floober364]back :P
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01:27:10 [Marusame]also i found out that its renaming the file i assume by the first line so ill just make the first line RMCE01
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01:30:20 [Marusame]ya making the first line of the text file for cheat manager v0.3 seems to use that as the filename excluding the gct. so putting RMCE01 made a RMCE01.gct file
01:30:37 [DJPlace]oh i can use Ocarina Code on dolphin?
01:30:44 [DJPlace]to try out the severs? sweet?
01:40:18 [bobmcjr]Do not forget the dns
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01:45:21 [Marusame]ya very bizzar how they are using the dns
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01:45:44 [helpme]hello
01:46:06 [Marusame]woo online, full liscense card, all unlocks, ready to go
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01:49:56 [helpme]wont be able to get that ds lite until 2moro oh well i'll come back and tell you guys if it works hopefully prof 9 has more codes for Wfc Replay by then. thanks for all the info guys cya around.
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01:52:37 [Marusame]im in mario kart wii now
01:52:42 [Marusame]waiting for opponents
01:52:46 [Marusame]also recording
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01:56:55 [hackov94]hola
01:58:01 [hackov94]se puede usar call of duty modern warfare 3 defiance ds o aun no?
01:58:37 [DJPlace]omg....
01:58:44 [DJPlace]screw my burner
01:59:26 [DJPlace]i'm about to rage!!
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02:04:52 [einstein95]hackov94_2: (Usando google) Ellos usan un servidor personalizado que no se replican.
02:05:21 [Marusame]anyway to see if anyone is playing online from a website using this server?
02:05:33 [bobmcjr_]!stat
02:05:34 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii', 'mariokartwii'
02:05:49 [bobmcjr_]!dlc
02:05:57 [bobmcjr_]dlc
02:06:14 [einstein95]!link dlc
02:06:14 [Sacchi]https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki/Nintendo-DS-Download-Content
02:06:25 [BarronWaffles]Hi einstein95
02:06:30 [einstein95]o/
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02:07:45 [Marusame]been searching for opponents for awhile on mario kart
02:08:09 [bobmcjr_]!stat kart
02:08:09 [Sacchi]mariokartwii has 1 player.
02:08:20 [bobmcjr_]I'll join
02:09:35 [Marusame]i suck apparently so anyone would probably win
02:09:54 [Marusame]i use a gamecube controller but hopefully using other characters it will be better
02:10:16 [Marusame]!stat kart
02:10:16 [Sacchi]mariokartwii has 1 player.
02:10:19 [Marusame]neat
02:11:42 [bobmcjr]!stat kart
02:11:42 [Sacchi]mariokartwii has 2 players.
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02:26:26 [Team_Fail]o/
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02:29:29 [Marusame]!stat kart
02:29:29 [Sacchi]mariokartwii has 2 players.
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02:39:49 [bobmcjr_]Floober: Can you animal crossing wild world yet?
02:40:45 [BarronWaffles]I can test in a few minutes if you would like
02:40:52 [bobmcjr_]Sure
02:41:08 [BarronWaffles]Oh wait, I've gotta do the job/s first in the game eh?
02:41:11 [BarronWaffles]Might take a little longer
02:41:31 [bobmcjr]You could d/l a save
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03:00:16 [BarronWaffles]Sorry, was...
03:00:20 [BarronWaffles]Bathroom.
03:03:44 [einstein95]"Bathroom"
03:06:08 [BarronWaffles]It was violent.
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03:19:29 [Floober]lol
03:19:34 [Floober]that was fun to come back to
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03:34:01 [Marusame]does it normally take a day or so for uploaded info to be added such as smash bros friend codes to the server?
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03:48:48 [bobmcjr] no
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03:53:45 [ToadKing]what friend code uploads?
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03:57:59 [vaguerant]!stat 2ds
03:57:59 [Sacchi]jumpsstars2ds has 1 player.
03:58:17 [vaguerant]wow when did the server start supporting 2ds games
03:58:54 [einstein95]:V
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04:05:31 [FinkMac]!stat
04:05:32 [Sacchi]'mariokartds', 'jumpsstars2ds'
04:05:37 [FinkMac]wat
04:11:02 [vaguerant]Those are the games that currently have players.
04:13:44 [FinkMac]ah
04:13:50 [FinkMac]is there a list of games that have servers?
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04:14:01 [FinkMac]!help
04:14:08 [FinkMac]!seen
04:20:15 [Sponge]https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki/Compatibility
04:20:47 [Sponge]in many cases games can make use of the 'generic' servers, so even if one isn't listed it can still be tested and might work fine
04:21:00 [Sponge]if you're looking for active connection numbers, http://75.127.5.215:9001/
04:21:04 [FinkMac]no animal crossing :(
04:21:25 [FinkMac]haven't been keeping up with development lately
04:21:55 [vaguerant]That just means nobody's playing it right now.
04:22:17 [Sponge]there's 1 person online in City Folk over on wiimmfi lol
04:25:17 [FinkMac]wat about Wild World?
04:25:31 [FinkMac]really, I'm just wondering if it works
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04:33:52 [Sponge]I might be able to try it out later
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04:38:11 [Naughx]Hi
04:38:22 [einstein95]o/
04:39:42 [Sponge]\o
04:54:13 [BarronWaffles]Hey
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05:16:31 [vaguerant]Mr. Driller: Drill Spirit Tracks.
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05:31:21 [ACTL_33]Hey all.
05:31:37 [ACTL_33]Did I just hear that they got a DLC server up for the NWF games that use it, by any chance?
05:31:43 [ACTL_33]*NWFC
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05:33:53 [vaguerant]https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki/Nintendo-DS-Download-Content
05:34:09 [einstein95]"Just" got it up quite some time ago
05:34:10 [vaguerant]You should be able to get all this stuff from the server.
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05:41:31 [vaguerant]Hmm.
05:41:43 [vaguerant]WfcReplay doesn't find any https URLs in Spirit Tracks.
05:42:33 [vaguerant]Does it even have wifi?
05:42:47 [vaguerant]No logo on the box.
05:43:01 [vaguerant]I guess its battle mode is local-only, unlike Hourglass.
05:43:54 [vaguerant]"Unlike The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks does not feature Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection multiplayer. However, up to four players can play via DS Download Play, using only one game card, and one game system per player."
05:46:50 [vaguerant]Welp. What else looks interesting to test ...
05:47:32 [vaguerant]Why is there a game called "Air Wings", what a generic name.
05:47:55 [vaguerant]I'm gonna make a driving game and call it "Ground Wheels".
05:51:25 [vaguerant]Actually, I don't see a game called that. I wonder if it's a working title for something else or another cancelled game.
05:52:25 [vaguerant]There's a game called "Freedom Wings"; no wi-fi but it's a possibility.
05:56:42 [vaguerant]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Impulse
05:57:10 [vaguerant]Could be this. I'll grab it, I guess. I think there was a translation project for this game, wonder if anything came of it.
05:59:39 [vaguerant]Translation went nowhere.
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06:04:38 [einstein95]I guess they just lacked the impulse to continue
06:05:29 [vaguerant]Sorry to jet, but I lack impulse.
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06:08:55 [einstein95]9 out of 10 people agree that 1 out of 10 people will always disagree with the other 9
06:10:46 [vaguerant]That seems like false advertising.
06:11:01 [vaguerant]Your client can't just make the claim that you're happy with it.
06:11:18 [vaguerant]You might be trying it for the first time and hate it.
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06:24:33 [vaguerant]!stat air
06:24:33 [Sacchi]airwingsds has 1 player.
06:24:37 [vaguerant]Ta-da.
06:24:44 [vaguerant]It is Jet Impulse.
06:25:17 [SanicReducer]Nice script
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06:26:04 [vaguerant]What's the name mean, anyway?
06:26:15 [vaguerant]I vote it should be renamed to Syachi. :V
06:28:53 [vaguerant]The Jet Impulse menu is largely English, it's not hard to get to the wifi area at all.
06:30:44 [vaguerant]Game itself is boring as hell. It seems very sim-y as flight games go, which I don't care about in the least.
06:35:15 [vaguerant]I wonder why they dropped the ".0" from "Bomberman 2".
06:35:32 [vaguerant]The 2.0 makes sense because Bomberman goes inside a computer or some such junk.
06:35:55 [einstein95]Bomberman 3.141592653589793238...
06:38:17 [vaguerant]I wonder if "cb2ds" really is Custom Battler Bomberman, the Japanese version of Bomberman 2.
06:38:37 [vaguerant]I can't be bothered downloading a Japanese version of a game I already have.
06:39:46 [vaguerant]Also, what the hell is "dental2".
06:40:04 [einstein95]Dental Simulator 2: Dental Harder
06:45:03 [vaguerant]"Figland" sounds interesting.
06:46:21 [vaguerant]http://www.siliconera.com/2009/09/29/is-ignitions-next-game-dragons-crown/
06:46:21 [Sacchi]Is Ignition’s Next Game Dragon’s Crown? - Siliconera
06:46:34 [vaguerant]"Figland" was filed as a trademark.
06:48:11 [vaguerant]Possibly another cancelled game for the list.
06:49:38 [vaguerant]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_Entertainment#Games_published.2Fdeveloped
06:49:51 [vaguerant]They did release a few DS games, I guess it could be one of those ...
06:51:59 [vaguerant]Figland was filed in November, 2008, so anything after then.
06:55:12 [einstein95]Nostalgia was released at that time
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07:07:36 [vaguerant]Mario Party DS mparty1ds rUpE9b
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07:07:50 [vaguerant]I wonder if this implies there were plans for more DS Mario Party games.
07:08:58 [vaguerant]Also, Mario Party DS has no online play.
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07:09:38 [coilerr]hi, quick question is it still possible to access the new servers even if I didnt save my wifi id?
07:09:48 [einstein95]Wifi ID?
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07:10:26 [coilerr]yh
07:10:52 [coilerr]like I had to do it before the 18th of this month but I didnt
07:11:36 [einstein95]That was for Wiimm's server. You could save it with software, but that's not necessary for this server
07:11:47 [coilerr]oh
07:13:01 [coilerr]how is the lag on these servers? better worse than before?
07:13:02 [vaguerant]McDonald's DS Crew Development Program DS mcdcrewds 8qTI8b
07:13:22 [vaguerant]The same; all the server does is connect you to another player.
07:13:34 [vaguerant]After that, it's a matter of the connection with the other player/s.
07:14:01 [coilerr]ok , thanks and will project M work?
07:14:22 [SanicReducer]<vaguerant> McDonald's DS Crew Development Program DS mcdcrewds 8qTI8b
07:14:25 [SanicReducer]wat
07:14:50 [einstein95]Project M has been reported working
07:14:58 [coilerr]:O
07:15:05 [coilerr]that's great
07:15:10 [vaguerant]http://au.ign.com/articles/2010/03/22/mcdonalds-japan-using-nintendo-ds-to-train-employees
07:15:11 [Sacchi]McDonald's Japan Using Nintendo DS To Train Employees - IGN
07:15:32 [coilerr]so all I need to do is change my DNS config and I can ply online thats it?
07:16:00 [vaguerant]You need to use Brainslug or the Ocarina code for Wii games, and SSLPatcher or WfcReplay for DS games.
07:16:04 [coilerr]oh and install all the lil things
07:16:10 [SanicReducer]learn how to fucking read, man
07:16:28 [coilerr]?
07:16:33 [vaguerant]All right, be cool. He should have read the guide more closely, but there's no need for abuse.
07:16:34 [coilerr]easy dude
07:16:56 [SanicReducer]abuse is a strong term, but whateva
07:17:04 [coilerr]I read it bt forgot when I wrote
07:18:02 [SanicReducer]Possibly stupid question: Have ROMs ever been released of that McDonald's "game"?
07:18:34 [SanicReducer]released/dumped/whatever
07:19:14 [vaguerant]I just had a look around, I can't find anything about it being released, unfortunately.
07:19:22 [vaguerant]I would have liked to have tried it, too.
07:22:50 [vaguerant]Nameless Neverland DS nameneverds oL7dO2
07:23:05 [vaguerant]Presumably one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_(company)#DS
07:23:47 [coilerr]gz to anybody who did this though , youre great
07:23:53 [vaguerant]The Rune Factory games all have their own servers, so not those.
07:26:30 [vaguerant]My guess is that it's "Dramatic Dungeon Sakura Taisen", a game which does have online.
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07:28:01 [coilerr]As I use a usb loader I need to use the code but how do I need to name it? like the code file
07:29:26 [vaguerant]It should match the 6-character ID of the game you want to play.
07:29:51 [vaguerant]So Mario Kart Wii (PAL) is RMCP01, if I remember correctly.
07:30:15 [coilerr]oh for every game I see thanks
07:30:33 [vaguerant]Yeah, for now you need to have a copy of the code for each game you want to use.
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07:38:13 [soio]Hi everybody !
07:38:34 [einstein95]Hi Dr. Nick!
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07:54:19 [vaguerant]Bah.
07:54:27 [vaguerant]Found another game for Prof9 to look at.
07:54:42 [vaguerant]That Sakura Taisen game whitescreens with a WfcReplay code enabled.
07:55:08 [Marusame]ya i run off a usb loader and i use codes on it
07:55:27 [Marusame]pain in the butt though
08:00:59 [vaguerant]Hmm. I don't think there's a menu option for wifi, must be a character you need to hassle to play online.
08:02:02 [vaguerant]Wait, I think I gound it.
08:02:26 [vaguerant]*found
08:03:24 [vaguerant]Damn.
08:03:28 [vaguerant]!stat sak
08:03:28 [Sacchi]sakuraTDDds has 1 player.
08:03:38 [vaguerant]It's not "Nameless Neverland".
08:04:00 [einstein95]!stat
08:04:00 [Sacchi]'sakuraTDDds', 'mprimeds', 'mariokartds'
08:04:32 [vaguerant]Notably, sakuraTDDds doesn't seem to be in aluigi's list.
08:05:01 [einstein95]!stat dungeon
08:05:02 [Sacchi]sakuraTDDds has 1 player.
08:05:17 [vaguerant]Actually, yes it is, but it doesn't have (DS) on the end.
08:05:24 [vaguerant]So it got left out of the cropped version.
08:05:30 [einstein95]Heh
08:21:55 [vaguerant]So that still leaves the question of what Nameless Neverland is.
08:24:10 [vaguerant]Egg Monster Hero doesn't seem to have wi-fi from what I can tell, nor does Lufia.
08:24:24 [vaguerant]The Rune Factories and Sakura Taisen are all accounted for.
08:27:13 [einstein95]Nintendo Sake Test ninsake TpSP5q
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08:29:43 [vaguerant]Here's another one missing from the cropped list: RPG tkool DS (DSi) rpgtkooldsi NaGK7x
08:34:40 [vaguerant]A couple of the Rune Factory games had names too long too, and are missing from the cropped version.
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08:48:32 [BarronWaffles]Looks like Spirit Tracks was local only vaguerant, sadly.
08:48:49 [vaguerant]Yeah, I saw that, too.
08:48:52 [BarronWaffles]Our rivalry will be contained to the fields of Phantom Hourglass.
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10:05:51 [vaguerant]Oh, I should file an issue for that Sakura Taisen game.
10:12:07 [vaguerant]Done.
10:19:08 [BarronWaffles]Is it possible to use a flashcart as a action replay in regards to retail carts?
10:19:30 [BarronWaffles]I've been trying nitrohax, but it doesn't seem to actually apply anything.
10:20:57 [einstein95]Apparently there's only NitroHax
10:21:09 [vaguerant]NitroHax is the only way I know of.
10:23:02 [BarronWaffles]Hmmm
10:23:14 [BarronWaffles]The lastest version of it just seems to crash on me also
10:23:18 [vaguerant]I assume the Australian Mario Kart DS is the same ROM as Europe, right?
10:26:32 [Normmatt]BarronWaffles, your xml/usrcheat.dat need to be less than 2-3mb
10:30:34 [einstein95]vaguerant: I don't think anyone's confirmed it as of yet
10:30:57 [Noir|work]Normmatt: have the same issues with NitroHax, with a size of some KB. freezes as soon a folder is opened.
10:30:59 [vaguerant]Oh. I guess I'll check then. I have a couple of -AUS carts.
10:31:23 [Noir|work]there is no AUS dump of mkds
10:31:37 [Normmatt]Noir|work, your using xml or usrcheat?
10:31:46 [Normmatt]or doesn't that matter?
10:32:19 [Noir|work]xml
10:32:48 [einstein95]Normmatt: I think it only works with xml
10:32:50 [einstein95]One of the following will be loaded automatically if it is found (in order of preference):
10:32:50 [einstein95] "cheats.xml" in the current directory
10:32:50 [einstein95] "/NitroHax/cheats.xml"
10:32:50 [einstein95] "/data/NitroHax/cheats.xml"
10:32:50 [einstein95] "/cheats.xml"
10:33:04 [vaguerant]OK, Mario Kart DS is the same as the USA ROM.
10:33:14 [einstein95]Oh? Interesting
10:33:31 [Noir|work]i used something like codelist.xml, when booting nitrohax i could select the xml file
10:34:24 [Noir|work]don't have my DS here, maybe BarronWaffles can check if renaming to cheats.xml does the trick for some unknown reason
10:34:28 [vaguerant]Same deal for Metroid Prime Hunters, same CRC as USA.
10:34:55 [vaguerant]What else we got ... Advance Wars: Dual Strike.
10:35:52 [vaguerant]Yep, USA.
10:35:58 [vaguerant]This is interesting.
10:36:01 [BarronWaffles]I'll give it a try Noir|work
10:36:06 [einstein95]You should submit these to No-Intro
10:36:36 [einstein95]vaguerant: I know Pokemon Conquest is the same between US and Aus, that was confirmed
10:36:48 [vaguerant]Testing NSMB now.
10:37:30 [vaguerant]Same as USA.
10:37:31 [einstein95]What are you using to dump them?
10:37:37 [vaguerant]Wood.
10:37:55 [vaguerant]I'm not dumping them this fast, Wood has a CRC calculator.
10:37:56 [einstein95]Wifi?
10:37:59 [einstein95]Oh
10:38:03 [vaguerant]I'm just calculating the CRCs.
10:38:05 [einstein95]Heh
10:38:46 [vaguerant]Polarium ...
10:39:02 [BarronWaffles]Nope, still crashes when navigating into a folder
10:39:17 [vaguerant]Same as USA.
10:40:14 [vaguerant]Star Fox Command, same as USA.
10:41:11 [BarronWaffles]Looks like I'll just import a few action replays
10:41:44 [vaguerant]Super Mario 64 DS ... same as USA rev 1.
10:42:48 [vaguerant]Yoshi's Touch & Go, same as USA.
10:43:05 [vaguerant]That's all my -AUS games.
10:43:49 [einstein95]If only you could do that on a 3DS. Looks like I'm going to have to get a preowned DS lite
10:44:09 [vaguerant]Why can't you?
10:44:32 [vaguerant]How do I submit this info to No-Intro anyway.
10:44:53 [vaguerant]And everyone's gonna be p. mad when all the ROMs are "Mario Kart DS (USA, Australia).nds".
10:44:53 [einstein95]3DS and DSi don't work with Wood Dumper
10:44:58 [vaguerant]That shit's fucking annoying.
10:44:59 [einstein95]:v
10:45:02 [vaguerant]Huh, that's a shame.
10:45:11 [einstein95]I think it's (USA, Aus)
10:45:30 [Seru-kun]Well, they put (Europe) like that
10:45:38 [Seru-kun]Australia is likely.
10:46:05 [einstein95]vaguerant: I think you email shippa4@hotmail.com
10:46:34 [einstein95]"6093 - Pokemon Conquest (USA, Australia) (NDSi Enhanced) [b]"
10:47:40 [BarronWaffles]Needs more tags
10:49:08 [Seru-kun]Super Street Fighter 2 Hyper Ultra HD Remix (USA, Europe, Australia) (3DSi Enhanced) [b3]
10:49:20 [Seru-kun]Whatever
10:59:15 [Noir|work]vaguerant, what'S printed on your carts? NTR-XXX-???
10:59:44 [vaguerant]NTR-AMCE-AUS is my Mario Kart.
11:00:21 [vaguerant]The Australian market is flooded with imports, I have more -USA and -EUR carts than I do -AUS.
11:00:38 [vaguerant]But I'm only checking my -AUS carts obviously.
11:00:50 [Noir|work]hm. but i guess it's common knowledge that USA and AUS releases use the same ROMs.. i think giving info to no-intro is useless. if there were different CRCs / different ROMs, they would have been dumped.
11:01:34 [einstein95]Noir|work: Occasionally we (aus/nz) get eu versions I believe
11:03:05 [Noir|work]There's a Sesame Street Elmos A to the Zoo adventure AUS Dump and a USA Dump, no CRCs listed in the NFOs. the USA rls was nuked, but was never propered. maybe because the AUS-USA is the same aswell
11:04:58 [Noir|work]i don't know if aus/nz usually gets EU/USA roms. there are very few AUS releases..
11:05:34 [einstein95]My Brain Training cart is ANDP-AUS, Rhythm Heaven is YLZE-AUS, Chibi Robo is AJBE-AUS, and Lock's Quest is CSPP-AUS
11:05:39 [Noir|work]i'm counting 10 AUS releases
11:06:14 [Noir|work]including demo dumps
11:11:09 [Noir|work]* Noir|work is busy again.
11:13:36 [vaguerant]Well anyway, I emailed them my CRCs for AUS games.
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11:19:01 [vaguerant]What's the format of cheats.xml expected by NitroHax?
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11:23:37 [Noir|work]I used r4cce to create my xml's
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11:30:40 [vaguerant]Hmm. Doesn't work for me, either.
11:30:56 [vaguerant]Crashes as soon as I open the Mario Kart DS code directory.
11:37:24 [vaguerant]Some people suggest dropping down to 0.82.
11:37:50 [BarronWaffles]MMm
11:38:02 [BarronWaffles]I tried that, it didn't seem to apply any codes
11:39:51 [vaguerant]Actually, it stopped crashing now that I gave the database overall a name.
11:39:56 [vaguerant]I had it empty before.
11:41:29 [vaguerant]I'm actually seeing the same behavior people like Riverbui were talking about on Mario Kart.
11:41:34 [BarronWaffles]Oh?
11:42:00 [vaguerant]Yeah. "Connecting to Nintendo WFC... Please wait a moment..."
11:42:10 [vaguerant]Not getting any further than that so far.
11:44:13 [BarronWaffles]Would you pastebin your working cheats list?
11:44:52 [vaguerant]Sure thing.
11:45:08 [BarronWaffles]Cheers
11:45:55 [vaguerant]http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QT8KGx9S
11:46:25 [vaguerant]Is there a button code to delete your save on Mario Kart or do I need to use a homebrew to delete my save?
11:46:47 [vaguerant]Oh. Options > Erase Data.
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11:49:04 [vaguerant]Deleted my save, trying to connect again.
11:49:11 [vaguerant]That worked fine.
11:49:27 [vaguerant]!stat rtds
11:49:28 [Sacchi]No one is using a game like "rtds"
11:49:33 [einstein95]!stat
11:49:33 [Sacchi]'mariokartwii', 'mprimeds'
11:49:48 [vaguerant]Oh. I got disconnected again. :V
11:49:58 [einstein95]:V
11:50:43 [BarronWaffles]Still seems to crash on browse for me :\
11:51:27 [einstein95]Time to get 5 hours of sleep
11:51:28 [einstein95]g'night
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11:51:39 [vaguerant]Night.
11:51:45 [BarronWaffles]Nightnight
11:52:40 [vaguerant]I'm able to get to the search screen, but I'm getting that 30 seconds later disconnect with 84020 from last night.
11:52:54 [vaguerant]So I think the server's just broke again.
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11:55:12 [BarronWaffles]Ahh
11:55:21 [BarronWaffles]It works if you don't have any folders I guess
11:55:41 [BarronWaffles]The source is available, might be worth a look
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12:03:46 [vaguerant]I predict that Italy will be in here asking about the server being down within the next three hours or so.
12:04:03 [vaguerant]Maybe the server should be rebooting on a 12 hour cron job or something.
12:04:23 [vaguerant]There's always a long period where Nagato is asleep/away/etc. and the server's just dead until it gets a reboot.
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12:04:45 [vaguerant]I think the small number of interrupted games would be trumped by the number of new games it would allow to work.
12:05:05 [vaguerant]Even six hours might be good.
12:05:38 [BarronWaffles]Mmmm
12:05:40 [Nagato]i'm awake
12:06:36 [Nagato]is it really broken this time though? there's still traffic visible on the server. what issue are you having?
12:07:32 [vaguerant]I seem to get an 84020 about 30 seconds after connecting. Let me try a couple other games before you do anything, though.
12:07:58 [Nagato]try something else then please. i'm looking at the server logs now
12:08:06 [Nagato]if we could figure out *why* it's not working then that would be nice
12:09:28 [vaguerant]OK, first up, Bomberman 2.
12:09:40 [vaguerant]Connecting to NWFC...
12:09:45 [vaguerant]Connected.
12:09:46 [Nagato]so far it looks normal i guess
12:09:58 [Nagato]wait
12:10:04 [Nagato]i see an issue i think
12:10:05 [vaguerant]Just started searching in World.
12:10:07 [Nagato]qr isn't responding
12:10:27 [Nagato]did you get dc'd?
12:10:29 [vaguerant]85020 error.
12:10:31 [vaguerant]Yes.
12:10:34 [Nagato]ok
12:10:36 [Nagato]this actually helps
12:10:42 [Nagato]qr isn't responding for some reason
12:10:43 [vaguerant]Awesome.
12:10:55 [Nagato]it must be crashed somewhere
12:11:03 [Nagato]qr isn't responding to metroid either
12:11:21 [Nagato]it's definitely qr that is causing the issues with the server needing to be restarted
12:11:29 [Nagato]now the question is... why :?
12:13:52 [Nagato]let me see what the last response from qr was...
12:14:17 [Nagato]around 7am
12:19:59 [Nagato]holy shit this is goign to be really noisy if i leave it running in trace mode for too long
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12:25:33 [Committee]great job guys
12:25:39 [Committee]thank you for adding retail card support
12:25:40 [Committee]:D
12:27:29 [Nagato]yeaaah i knew this would not work. trying to get a trace is too difficult :( it's already grown to 12mb in less than a minute. fuck that
12:27:56 [Nagato]i guess we can leave it running for a day until it crashes again
12:28:01 [Nagato]anyway, server is up again for now
12:29:07 [Nagato]hrm... gdb might work
12:30:07 [vaguerant]Is the stats page dead?
12:30:20 [Nagato]i just killed the server
12:30:26 [Nagato]trying to get gdb and stuff setup for python
12:30:30 [Nagato]so i can actually debug this properly
12:30:32 [vaguerant]Oh, OK. No problem.
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13:08:59 [Committee]finally
13:09:03 [Committee]mirc
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13:11:32 [Unica]hmm
13:11:59 [Committee]sorry just happy
13:12:08 [Committee]the browser client just kept crashing on me
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13:16:33 [Prof9]vaguerant, that Dramatic Dungeon code appears to work for me
13:16:45 [Prof9]I just booted it up in No$gba with the code and it didn't crash
13:16:59 [vaguerant]Hmm. Let me try something.
13:18:14 [Prof9]works in DeSmuME as well
13:22:30 [Committee]who's developing the AR part for the retail carts btw?
13:22:43 [Prof9]that would be me
13:23:10 [Normmatt]btw is there no way to use a fake signed cert for https?
13:23:36 [Committee]hello Prof9!
13:23:44 [Prof9]hi
13:23:46 [Committee]kudos to you man
13:23:53 [Normmatt]like does nintendo check that properly
13:24:00 [Committee]or rather kudos to you person
13:24:01 [Committee]:D
13:24:33 [Prof9]I'm not sure anyone checked Normmatt
13:24:50 [Prof9]looked at the code for that I mean
13:24:51 [Committee]you know the sad part is i have not seen this thing go off, not many people know about altwfc, or at least not the number of people I was expecting
13:25:06 [Prof9]well spread the word then
13:25:09 [Committee]yap
13:25:11 [Committee]believe me I am
13:25:16 [Committee]starting with the Dq9 board
13:26:04 [Prof9]I think a lot of people know about altwfc but might be waiting until it gets more stable/supports more features
13:26:09 [Committee]http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/937281-dragon-quest-ix-sentinels-of-the-starry-skies/69269109
13:26:11 [Sacchi]Save the Wi-Fi DQ9 - Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies Message Board for DS - GameFAQs
13:26:18 [Committee]thats me right there, Ned_14
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13:26:27 [Committee]15 sorry
13:28:32 [Committee]well me thinks once the pokemon stuff gets sorted out this thing will take off like a rocket
13:30:47 [vaguerant]Prof9: Interference between your code and AKAIO soft reset.
13:30:53 [Prof9]huhhh
13:31:06 [Prof9]does that happen in other games?
13:31:23 [vaguerant]First one so far.
13:31:38 [Prof9]why would there be AKAIO code there
13:31:51 [Committee]for the soft reset?
13:32:23 [Prof9]vaguerant, can you try this one? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5SQYRu8D
13:32:40 [Prof9]it's a new compressed code
13:35:49 [vaguerant]Sure thing.
13:35:55 [Unica]I have a question, who's making those Bypass AR codes? i'd like if someone could make one for FIFA 11 ds.
13:36:17 [vaguerant]Prof9 has made a tool which generates them for you.
13:37:09 [Prof9]https://github.com/Prof9/wfcreplay/releases
13:37:10 [Unica]Where I can get the tool?
13:37:12 [Committee]https://github.com/Prof9/wfcreplay/releases
13:37:15 [Unica]Oh thank you :)
13:37:20 [Committee]instructions here :
13:37:21 [Committee]https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki
13:37:22 [Committee]LD
13:37:23 [Committee]:D
13:38:22 [Unica]thx :)
13:44:21 [vaguerant]!stat sak
13:44:21 [Sacchi]sakuraTDDds has 1 player.
13:44:31 [vaguerant]The code works, but it still whitescreens if soft reset is enabled.
13:44:49 [Prof9]hm
13:44:52 [Prof9]Normmatt?
13:45:32 [Prof9]does AKAIO have code around 0x0200036C for Dangerous Dungeon Sakurai Taisen?
13:49:54 [Prof9]game boots up fine on my DSTWO with the code enabled, so I'm gonna close the issue
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13:53:53 [vaguerant]Yeah, the code works fine, it's not your tool's issue if it clobbers some flash card hacks.
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14:02:14 [bobmcjr]!stat
14:02:14 [Sacchi]'mariokartds'
14:02:19 [bobmcjr]!stat ds
14:02:19 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 7 players.
14:02:38 [vaguerant]Just FYI, Prof9, I'm online on MKDS right now on a retail cart with a WfcReplay code, so I think that other issue is unrelated to you.
14:03:37 [Prof9]yeah I was pretty sure it was
14:05:25 [bobmcjr]!stat ds
14:05:25 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 9 players.
14:05:48 [bobmcjr]Did matching break again?
14:06:28 [vaguerant]It was working a few minutes ago.
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14:14:53 [alskdkq]Anyone play Jump Ultimate Stars?
14:24:19 [alskdkq]Is there an AR code that deletes wireless profile?
14:25:59 [Committee]I dont think you can do that via AR
14:26:49 [Prof9]you don't need an AR code for that
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14:27:47 [Team_Fail]o/
14:27:52 [Prof9]hey
14:28:16 [Committee]all star cast tonight
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14:36:19 [SonicReducer]http://i.imgur.com/1zl7f8Q.jpg Pfffft oh lawdy
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14:44:01 [SrDragoon]DQ9's DQVC might come from Square Enix
14:44:25 [SrDragoon]we'd need to run a packet capture to check
14:44:50 [Committee]if Nagato was able to catch the Alcaid 4 DLC then this might mean its just a trigger of a flag as to what items to offer in DQVC
14:44:59 [Committee]my opinion only sorry
14:45:27 [SrDragoon]I haven't played mine in awhile, so I don't remember what week I stopped
14:45:33 [Committee]I think the items are already in game, since there is an AR code to replace stornway item shop with DQVC items
14:45:47 [SrDragoon]I'll look for it and give it a try
14:45:49 [Committee]same as the seasonal seller in MH
14:45:51 [Committee]:D
14:46:14 [Committee]i think what youll need to look for is what the server responds to when a query for DQVC comes up, and if thats changeable or editable
14:46:31 [Committee]sorry noob coder, I may or may not know what Im talking about, too much time with PBX servers
14:49:14 [SrDragoon]did someone make an AR code for it yet? I don't have the rom
14:50:59 [Committee]let me get that for you
14:51:34 [Committee]STORNWAY ARMOR SHOPS (2 NPCS) = DQVC EXCLUSIVES (All equipment prices remain as they are in DQVC, store becomes normal after loading again without the code on)
14:51:35 [Committee]52389404 440043FC
14:51:35 [Committee]223893D1 00000010
14:51:35 [Committee]E23893E4 00000024
14:51:35 [Committee]560C560B 560E560D
14:51:35 [Committee]560F560A 320C4E9C
14:51:35 [Committee]320F320D 32753274
14:51:37 [Committee]30D730D6 3094308C
14:51:37 [Committee]FFFFFFFF 00000000
14:51:37 [Committee]D0000000 00000000
14:51:37 [Committee]52389404 42DC42D9
14:51:38 [Committee]223893D1 00000010
14:51:38 [Committee]E23893E4 00000024
14:51:39 [Committee]30923091 32ED320A
14:51:39 [Committee]353A32EC 32EB32EE
14:51:41 [Committee]3F853539 3F863F84
14:51:41 [Committee]42F73F83 46874405
14:51:41 [Committee]FFFFFFFF 00000000
14:51:41 [Committee]D2000000 00000000
14:51:43 [Committee]sorry flood
14:52:33 [SrDragoon]well, that might not work -- we'd need an AR code to convert HTTPS. THis looks like just items only
14:53:09 [Prof9]pastebin that shit
14:53:09 [SrDragoon]hold on, I do have it afterall
14:53:38 [Committee]have what?
14:53:52 [SrDragoon]the rom. I didn't see it earlier
14:54:30 [Committee]ah perfect
14:54:33 [Team_Fail][08:53.15] <Prof9> pastebin that shit >> Agreed lmao
14:54:45 [Committee]im am really sorry about that >.<
14:54:56 [Committee]at work, limited to when the bossman aint walking around
14:55:02 [SrDragoon]yep, the AR code looks familiar to Joker 2 and Pro
14:55:04 [Team_Fail]no, i just know from experience when people flood ircs
14:55:14 [Team_Fail]with MUCH more than that
14:55:25 [Team_Fail](The resulting kickban is always fun)
14:55:44 [Team_Fail]now to get back to overcoming the limitation in my application
14:56:02 [Committee]ah i remember those days
14:58:39 [Committee]im good to test though SrDragoon
14:58:42 [Committee]let me boot that sucker up
14:58:55 [SrDragoon]bah .. I can't get this to recognize the card when it's in the ARDS
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14:59:46 [Committee]i shame you master
15:00:15 [Matador]anyone on the mario kart ds server?
15:00:32 [Committee]about 5 players there
15:00:54 [Matador]i seem to be having trouble connecting to other players
15:00:56 [SrDragoon]oh i got it now, but man it is unstable. my card might be bad
15:01:00 [Prof9]!stats mariokartds
15:01:05 [Prof9]!stat mariokartds
15:01:05 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 5 players.
15:01:12 [Matador]i've patched the rom and everything and got onto servers
15:02:43 [Committee]did you patch it with the nossl or the specific mario kart patcher?
15:03:02 [Matador]yeah the specific mario kart one
15:03:11 [Committee]any error?
15:03:26 [Matador]i've got it to work on the server with two ds's on the same router
15:03:50 [Matador]nah it just never finds anyone when searching
15:04:50 [Matador]I'm using the USA rom and searching worldwide
15:05:04 [Matador]got a flashing light now
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15:05:43 [Matador]lights gone out
15:06:10 [Matador]back on
15:06:16 [Committee]hmm
15:06:24 [Matador]port forwarding issues?
15:06:30 [Committee]network issue? port forwarding maybe
15:06:31 [Committee]try it
15:06:35 [Committee]try to dmz your ds for now
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15:10:48 [Matador]was that you i just raced against?
15:10:49 [SrDragoon]ok i didnt connect but it appears my last dqvc was the dq3 trade fair
15:11:52 [Committee]ah then that could be a comparison
15:11:56 [Committee]Alchaid 4?
15:12:04 [Committee]ah im not online man, at work
15:16:26 [SrDragoon]oops i futzed the game id
15:17:25 [SrDragoon]hmmm whitescreen
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15:19:16 [Genosync]Anybody around?
15:19:49 [Matador]I Comittee: seems to be working now
15:20:22 [Genosync]Is the server up?
15:21:02 [Committee]nice
15:21:06 [Committee]dmz worked?
15:21:23 [Committee]server is up geno
15:21:27 [SrDragoon]that's better. might help if i put all the lines in =)
15:21:30 [Matador]nah didn't need to change it. just connected to a game. i'm setting the dmz now though
15:21:54 [Genosync]Getting 52220'd when trying connection tests from SysMenu.
15:22:05 [Genosync]Not really sure where to go at this point
15:22:35 [Committee]did you patch your game? did you set the dns server?
15:23:03 [SrDragoon]wow that was fast
15:23:05 [Genosync]Setting DNS server, this is still back at the System Menu.
15:23:09 [Genosync]Not even in a game yet.
15:23:12 [Committee]aight
15:23:23 [SrDragoon]I have alchaid 4 now
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15:23:31 [Committee]make sure you put in 75.127.5.215
15:23:43 [Committee]hows the item list srdragoon?
15:23:44 [SrDragoon]but I didn't even see myself appear in the stats page
15:23:44 [Genosync]yeah
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15:23:51 [Committee]yeah it does a quick download
15:23:56 [Committee]doesnt really stay online
15:23:57 [Genosync]the DNS is set properly.
15:24:01 [asdqweasd]Who ever is playing jump ultimate stars
15:24:02 [Genosync]maybe I'll put my router as secondary
15:24:10 [Committee]thats why I think it just triggers a flag to set what to sell
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15:24:38 [SrDragoon]yeah but who is doing it? If it's not coming from altwfc, then SE still has the service up?
15:24:47 [Genosync]damn, still 52220'd
15:24:50 [Committee]no its coming from altwfc definitely
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15:25:17 [Committee]tried it on the official server couple of hours ago no go, wont connect anymore
15:25:37 [asasas]Umm
15:25:42 [Committee]hello asasas
15:25:51 [asasas]Is there any way of re-creating new Wifi profile, without deleting the save?
15:25:55 [asasas]an AR code or something
15:26:04 [Committee]you can delete your wifi profile, its independent of the save
15:26:04 [Genosync]not that's available at the moment
15:26:07 [Genosync]oh
15:26:07 [vaguerant]asasas, on Wii or DS?
15:26:10 [Genosync]really?
15:26:18 [asasas]on DS
15:26:32 [Genosync]I think he's talking about his FriendCode info
15:26:35 [asasas]an AR code, that would force the dialog to come (that prompts you to create new profile)
15:26:37 [Genosync]pretty sure that's tied to the save
15:26:47 [vaguerant]You can do it on DS, you just go into the wifi settings and hit that one button.
15:26:55 [asasas]thing is, the message that comes up, can be probably forced by AR code
15:27:19 [vaguerant]That would make the dialog appear, but you'd have to do it in all games.
15:27:22 [asasas]Nope, that wouldn't delete it xD, the thing that needs to be deleted is the friendcode associate with server.
15:27:41 [asasas]Or maybe, a save patch tool, that only removes the WFC profile from a save ;)
15:27:49 [asasas]Keep save intact
15:27:55 [Committee]hmm
15:27:57 [Committee]interesting
15:27:58 [asasas];D
15:28:01 [asasas]I think I hit something here
15:28:03 [asasas]hahahha
15:28:07 [Committee]what game?
15:28:12 [vaguerant]If your wifi ID changes, which it does when you delete it, the game sees it as a different DS and triggers the message, AFAIK.
15:28:15 [asasas]Right now, on Jump Ultimate Stars
15:28:39 [asasas]The thing is, it doesnt trigger it as long as ur using same save file
15:29:10 [asasas]that means somewhere in the save file, theres something created that holds your WIFI profile (friendcode, ID that servers associates with you)
15:29:27 [Committee]would that matter though? since the old server that hosts the friend codes went down you would need a new one to associate with the new server
15:29:33 [Prof9]https://camo.githubusercontent.com/14e3f7ff797b3e83323ab3d9db1088dcd42741ef/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f447572684278732e706e67
15:29:40 [Prof9]press the Erase button there
15:29:46 [Prof9]deletes your wi-fi profiles for all games
15:30:13 [asasas]O.O
15:30:14 [asasas]All games ??
15:30:16 [Committee]no i believe what asasas is trying to say is that the savefile in jump ultimate stars associates your wfc wiht the friend code
15:30:43 [Committee]hence if you delete the wfc the friend code for jump ultimate stars would have to be refreshed
15:30:48 [Committee]am i correct so far asasas?
15:30:54 [Team_Fail]it just removes the WFC profile
15:31:01 [Team_Fail]for any games registered with that DS
15:31:05 [Prof9]that button makes all your friend codes invalid
15:31:10 [SrDragoon]just did a quickie search through the code .. I don't find any mention of DQ in it, but that might mean I'm not searching with right terms
15:31:12 [asasas]That reset button, does it only delete the auto-connected WIFI routers, or the ACTUAL friendcode ID stored in the save file
15:31:15 [Team_Fail]although it's essential for connecting to the new server
15:31:26 [Prof9]it deletes the actual profile ID
15:31:30 [Prof9]as well as all routers
15:31:31 [asasas]o.o
15:31:38 [Team_Fail]the reset button just clears any WiFi settings
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15:31:44 [Prof9]did you not read the wiki
15:31:45 [Team_Fail]you can set it up again though
15:31:54 [asasas]Ahahah
15:31:56 [asasas]and shuts the DS in my face
15:32:01 [Team_Fail]i'd totally do this on my 3ds if i had a compatible AR for it
15:32:18 [Committee]i think what asasas is worried about is his savefile not working after removing wfc
15:32:28 [Team_Fail]so i can play MKDS with LR buttons
15:32:35 [Prof9]i think asasas just didn't read the wiki
15:32:43 [asasas]Nope, its not really that
15:32:51 [asasas]im testing what Prof9 said right now
15:33:00 [asasas]Yep
15:33:03 [asasas]Hes CORRECT!!
15:33:27 [Committee]<asasas> Is there any way of re-creating new Wifi profile, without deleting the save?
15:33:28 [Committee]<asasas> an AR code or something
15:33:28 [Committee]<Committee> you can delete your wifi profile, its independent of the save
15:33:28 [asasas]That erase button, deletes all WIFI routers (configured), as well as the friendcode/ID that server associates with you
15:33:32 [Committee]i said that earlier
15:33:42 [asasas]Pure genius !!!!
15:33:44 [Committee]the savefile is intact right?
15:33:49 [asasas]Yes it is
15:33:50 [Prof9]sigh
15:34:01 [Committee]>.<
15:34:02 [asasas]I thought I had to come up with AR code, that forces the dialog manually
15:34:04 [asasas]xD
15:35:00 [asasas]Hmm, could someone make a No SSL patcher that works within the DS
15:35:08 [asasas]like a NDS file that SSL patches games
15:35:25 [Prof9]the point being?
15:35:33 [Committee]for retail carts?
15:35:44 [Prof9]there is such a thing called an Action Replay
15:35:50 [asasas]So I don't have to SSL patch games on PC (laziness)
15:35:51 [Committee]https://github.com/polaris-/dwc_network_server_emulator/wiki
15:36:21 [Prof9]literally all you have to do is drag and drop the ROM onto SslPatcher
15:36:22 [Committee]hmmm
15:36:32 [Committee]i would understand if you do not have pc access on a regular basis
15:36:36 [Committee]or using a mac
15:36:43 [bobmcjr](SslPatcher doesn't work too well... at all)
15:36:48 [Prof9]i would not, how would you get the ROM in the first place
15:37:03 [asasas]Hmm, they're all stored on the DS, from back in the days
15:37:27 [Pikachu025]just redump your games
15:38:14 [asasas]Do all flash cards have the same usrcheats file
15:38:14 [Committee]please understand right now the team is small and yes the server is up but it is a working effort
15:38:17 [asasas]that contains all AR codes ?
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15:38:27 [Prof9]there is none yet
15:38:31 [Prof9]there might be in the future
15:38:32 [Genosync]So, got it working now I think, anyone up for Brawl?
15:39:40 [bobmcjr]sure
15:40:02 [Committee]the usrcheats file is jsut a textfile, for some reason it just has been the standard file name for flashcards
15:40:15 [Prof9]it's not a text file
15:40:18 [Committee]sorry my mistake
15:40:30 [Committee]not a text file then
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15:40:39 [asasas]hahhaha
15:40:58 [Committee]its a .dat file
15:41:08 [bobmcjr2]Which means nothing
15:41:13 [asasas]I think that it would be awesome, to have a NDS file, when you run it, it would add a AR code to all games (called no-ssl) that has the NO-SSL code within it
15:41:13 [Genosync]alright
15:41:17 [Genosync]I did the network enabler
15:41:20 [Prof9]it's basically a mess
15:41:28 [Prof9]I think that would be pointless
15:41:32 [Genosync]I'm loading the game with my codeset that has the wifi enable code
15:41:49 [bobmcjr2]Usrcheat.dat is like a very messy sql database
15:41:50 [Genosync]I'm sure it's loading my codes because my file replace stuff is working
15:42:00 [asasas]You'd just run it once, and all games will have a no ssl ar code within it, add batch ar codes
15:42:15 [Prof9]SslPatcher.exe *.nds
15:42:16 [Prof9]done
15:42:16 [Genosync]and now when I go to wifi in brawl
15:42:21 [Genosync]it Immediately tells me error 50220
15:42:23 [asasas]hahahhahah
15:42:34 [bobmcjr2]Prof9 stop recommending sslpatcher unless it's been updated
15:42:46 [asasas]SSL patcher doesn't always work for me, sadly :(
15:42:51 [Prof9]it works on most games doesn't it
15:43:00 [bobmcjr2]It failed on all i tried
15:43:13 [Genosync]anyone any thoughts?
15:43:16 [asasas]I don't know why, but when I ran it on YSMENU, YSMENU couldn't create new save file, giving me an error
15:43:21 [Committee]bob what games have you tried it on?
15:43:22 [Prof9]ysmenu sucks
15:43:26 [asasas]:(
15:43:31 [Genosync]When I pick Wifi in Brawl it's immediately going to Error 50220 without even trying to connect...
15:43:33 [bobmcjr2]Geno i'm on basic brawl anyone
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15:43:48 [Genosync]I put in the DNS settings and did the network enabler to re-enable connection1
15:43:55 [Genosync]which I'm wired
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15:44:17 [Genosync]it doesn't even attempt to turn on the wired adapter (normally the lights come on)
15:44:19 [bobmcjr2]Genosync is this real disc or usb
15:44:29 [Genosync]usb
15:44:38 [Genosync]code's in the file, I remade the GCT from scratch
15:44:50 [Genosync]and it's loading my file replacement stuff for brawl
15:44:57 [Genosync]brand new save
15:45:05 [Genosync]deleted and this is from scratch
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15:45:20 [bobmcjr2]Did you use a usbloader wire networked before?
15:45:28 [Genosync]yeah
15:45:29 [Genosync]all the time
15:45:37 [bobmcjr2]Hmm. So its not the ios
15:45:49 [Genosync]let me set to wireless
15:45:51 [Genosync]and see what happens
15:47:01 [Genosync]whoa
15:47:07 [Genosync]it straight told me connection settings are incorrect now
15:47:13 [Genosync]I think the network enabler screwed shit up
15:47:20 [Genosync]it didn't even try to connect to the wireless network
15:47:22 [bobmcjr2]Network enabler is fine
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15:47:56 [Genosync]ok
15:47:59 [Genosync]here it goes
15:48:02 [Genosync]testing
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15:48:10 [Genosync]success, setting DNS
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15:49:04 [Genosync]error 52231 as expected
15:49:10 [Genosync]using network enable
15:49:24 [bobmcjr2]Hmm.
15:49:46 [Genosync]set wireless conn as default
15:49:49 [Genosync]loading brawls
15:49:50 [bobmcjr2]Disable the ocarina stuff
15:50:04 [Genosync]um
15:50:05 [Genosync]will it work
15:50:09 [Genosync]without the code?
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15:50:15 [bobmcjr2]If you get 20110 with the ocarina codes off, that means the network stuff isn't to blame
15:50:43 [Genosync]alright, let's see where it goes
15:50:50 [Genosync]I already started loading with them on
15:50:51 [Genosync]so
15:50:56 [Genosync]will do that real quick
15:51:01 [Genosync]it's going through now
15:51:14 [Genosync]maybe something to do with the wired adapter
15:51:21 [Genosync]my FC is 5153-9607-6586
15:52:02 [Matador]anyone got stats on mario kart ds?
15:52:11 [Genosync]making my controls real quick
15:52:27 [Genosync]what's your FC bob
15:52:41 [Genosync]I'd rather do that than For Anyone since we can control it and that's how we were seeing the DCs before
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15:54:40 [qwasdq]nice match to stranger at JUS :D
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15:57:50 [Genosync]bob :(
15:58:20 [Genosync]anyone else Brawl?
15:58:48 [Genosync]I think y'alls server is going to work better already though... no idea what's different
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16:01:37 [Genosync]bob can we do regular peer to peer match
16:01:45 [Genosync]I want to test under same conditions as we had on wiimm's server
16:01:55 [bobmcjr2]We aren't doing regular match?
16:01:56 [Naughx]Is brawl's online region free?
16:01:58 [Genosync]nah
16:02:02 [Genosync]this is for anyone
16:02:05 [Genosync]not FC to FC
16:02:15 [Genosync]what's your profile's FC
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16:02:26 [Genosync]mine is 5153-9607-6586
16:02:26 [Naughx](Like European Brawl can connect with NTSC-U?)
16:02:34 [Genosync]and Brawl is region free internet play
16:02:35 [Genosync]yes
16:02:46 [Genosync]all shows up as RSBJ as far as servers are concerned
16:02:48 [Matador]!stat mariokartds
16:02:49 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 4 players.
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16:03:15 [Matador]!stat mariokartds
16:03:15 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 4 players.
16:03:16 [bobmcjr2]3478-9235-1082
16:03:34 [Genosync]yeah
16:03:39 [Genosync]you guys' box doesn't do what wiimm's does
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16:03:49 [Genosync]I have a feeling we'll never get dc'd on this server
16:04:02 [Naughx]wiimmfi is awesome. :P
16:04:12 [Matador]!stat mariokartds
16:04:12 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 3 players.
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16:04:24 [Genosync]let me know when you've added bob
16:04:31 [bobmcjr2]Done
16:04:38 [Genosync]sweet
16:04:50 [Genosync]this server is definitely different
16:04:56 [Genosync]bob, go ahead and host a match
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16:04:59 [Genosync]let's see how long it takes to start
16:05:07 [Genosync]just go to Create a Room
16:05:11 [Genosync]damn
16:05:16 [Genosync]I'm getting the brawl people moved over here
16:05:21 [Genosync]hopefully I can write up a guide
16:05:24 [bobmcjr2]Done
16:05:28 [bobmcjr2]Waiting
16:05:32 [Genosync]it showed up instantly
16:05:37 [Genosync]Wiimm's servers? sometimes NOT AT ALL.
16:05:49 [bobmcjr2]I enabled 2 cpu's as well
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16:10:28 [Genosync]yeah uh
16:10:31 [Genosync]we haven't gotten d/c'd
16:10:34 [Genosync]and it's been a while
16:10:39 [Genosync]this is definitely where we need to be
16:10:41 [bobmcjr2]Genosync we still need to test team brawl anyone
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16:11:18 [Genosync]it'll work, the problem we were having was just keeping a connect and FL updates
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16:15:31 [Guest39801].
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16:16:46 [bobmcjr2]Gg
16:16:47 [Genosync]alright bob
16:16:50 [Genosync]thanks for testing with me
16:16:56 [Genosync]ggs, wife is telling me I gotta go
16:17:02 [Genosync]I really appreciate this, you have no idea
16:17:09 [Genosync]community is going to be happy when I write up guide
16:17:36 [vaguerant]Family love Michael.
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16:18:25 [bobmcjr2]Anyone else want to brawl?
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16:26:28 [bobmcjr2]!stat
16:26:28 [Sacchi]'mprimeds', 'mariokartds', 'smashbrosxwii', 'mariokartwii'
16:26:37 [bobmcjr2]!stat smash
16:26:37 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 2 players.
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16:34:28 [serpe1]online brawl work?
16:36:00 [bobmcjr2]Yes, want to try?
16:36:48 [serpe1]yes
16:38:16 [serpe1]Need friend code?
16:39:04 [bobmcjr2]No go to basic brawl anyone
16:39:08 [serpe1]ok
16:39:28 [serpe1]i'm in
16:40:58 [bobmcjr2]I'm on
16:41:10 [bobmcjr2]!stat smash
16:41:10 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 3 players.
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16:42:42 [serpe1]it disconnected
16:42:50 [bobmcjr2]Try again
16:43:20 [serpe1]done
16:44:18 [bobmcjr2]Try friend code
16:44:34 [serpe1]3779 5712 2421
16:44:48 [bobmcjr2]3478-9235-1082
16:45:11 [serpe1]added
16:45:33 [bobmcjr2]I'll host
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16:45:56 [serpe1]i'm joining
16:46:15 [serpe1]error 86420
16:46:31 [bobmcjr2]I think something is wrong on your end
16:46:37 [serpe1]wait a moment
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16:47:48 [vaguerant]Has anyone looked at Heroes of Mana? Apparently it had downloadable maps. Not sure if they were truly downloadable or just flipping a bit somewhere.
16:49:26 [serpe1]ok
16:49:32 [serpe1]try now
16:49:42 [bobmcjr2]Still hosting
16:50:10 [Prof9]I haven't seen a lot of "true" DLC on the DS
16:50:33 [serpe1]no
16:52:08 [bobmcjr2]Anyone else for brawl?
16:53:07 [serpe1]last try
16:54:07 [serpe1]joining
16:54:51 [serpe1]now it doesn't do errors but do nothing
16:54:57 [serpe1]only waiting
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16:56:29 [serpe1]bob try with basic brawl now
16:56:42 [bobmcjr2]Ok
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17:00:27 [serpe1]nothing to do
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17:20:02 [jango]uh
17:20:15 [jango]so i have to delete my save file to go online
17:20:16 [jango]?
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17:59:44 [vaguerant]How many actually good DS games had play over wi-fi anyway?
17:59:57 [vaguerant]I'd be surprised if there's as many as 15.
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18:00:24 [Pikachu025]that sounds about right
18:00:45 [Pikachu025]though you could artificially inflate that number by counting every pokemon version
18:01:15 [vaguerant]Hahahahaha. I think that'd make them the majority by far.
18:08:01 [Pipian]Well
18:08:06 [Pipian]Pokemon gets you 9
18:08:20 [Committee]phantasy star 0
18:08:26 [Committee]thats 10
18:08:43 [Committee]what else...
18:09:08 [Pikachu025]On a more serious note, it's probably fair to count Pokémon as 2, once per generation.
18:09:21 [vaguerant]Yeah, I was thinking that.
18:09:28 [Pipian]2.5
18:09:50 [Pipian]There’s enough added to Platinum/HeartGold/SoulSilver that they deserve a half-game
18:10:00 [Pipian]In terms of technical requirements
18:10:12 [Pikachu025]I suppose.
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18:10:28 [Pikachu025]But they completely replace DP if you count it that way.
18:10:51 [vaguerant]I think most of the Bomberman games have pretty similar "battle mode" online stuff.
18:11:01 [vaguerant]They're all fine, but you don't need more than one.
18:11:46 [Committee]animal crossing
18:11:53 [vaguerant]That's all stuff I was thinking so far. :V
18:12:16 [Committee]Contact
18:12:20 [Prof9]megaman
18:12:25 [vaguerant]I'd also put Sonic Kart on there.
18:12:37 [Committee]DQ Monsters Joker 1 and 2
18:12:40 [Pikachu025]Rescue missions in Mystery Dungeon if you want to count that.
18:12:43 [vaguerant]What do you do in Contact?
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18:13:45 [vaguerant]Tetris Party is another one that's fine, but you don't need more than one Tetris game.
18:13:46 [Committee]you can get an npc from the other person, some items exclusive to that mode
18:14:06 [Pikachu025]...There was a DS Megaman game with online multiplayer?
18:14:06 [Committee]FF3 to unlock the Onion Knight job
18:14:14 [vaguerant]That seems like a pretty borderline definition of "online play".
18:14:34 [Pikachu025]Eh, I wouldn't count arbitrary online bullshit as online play, yeah.
18:14:52 [Pikachu025]Same with like the weekly puzzles in Layton, technically needs online but is super arbitrary.
18:14:57 [Arnold0]Hi, Some people for a mariokart ds game ?
18:15:07 [Committee]how bout the yugi-oh series
18:15:11 [Committee]for online play?
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18:15:34 [Committee]spirit caller and 2k7 - 2k8
18:16:16 [Committee]oh Ragnarok Online
18:16:28 [vaguerant]That game reviewed pretty awfully.
18:16:29 [Pikachu025]Dunno, the only card game games I care about were the GBC Pokemon ones, mostly because of their amazing soundtracks.
18:16:39 [Pikachu025]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29KpLvyywnI
18:16:39 [Sacchi]FamiTracker (N163) - GR Normal Battle - Pokemon GB 2 / TCG 2 :: 4:21 :: ★★★★★ :: 157 Views :: 8 Ratings
18:16:42 [vaguerant]I played it with bobmcjr for about 15 minutes, it seemed mediocre.
18:16:49 [Committee]Ragnarok Online had that online mode Tower something
18:16:55 [vaguerant]Yeah.
18:17:04 [bobmcjr3]Repeatedly tap the screen
18:17:09 [vaguerant]Yep.
18:17:18 [Committee]same as any mmo... just click away
18:17:18 [Pikachu025]well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPl-ns-yIUE I suppose but it's close anyway
18:17:18 [Sacchi]Pokemon Card GB2 Music - GR Normal Battle :: 2:24 :: ★★★★★ :: 9,138 Views :: 36 Ratings
18:17:36 [vaguerant]At least you get the MMO part in an MMO.
18:17:52 [Committee]what else...
18:18:04 [Committee]the megaman star force
18:18:12 [Committee]that or im thinking metroid prime
18:18:58 [bobmcjr3]There was another sonic game that supported it
18:19:58 [Committee]the Mario and Sonic at the olympic games?
18:20:32 [bobmcjr3]Nah it was a pure sanic game.
18:20:53 [vaguerant]Aren't the Olympics games just leaderboards, anyway?
18:20:55 [Committee]Sonic Colors?
18:21:05 [bobmcjr3]Maybe you already mentioned it
18:21:09 [Committee]it had wifi match ups
18:21:27 [Committee]either that or Sonic Rush Adventures
18:21:41 [bobmcjr3]Sanic rush adventures
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18:22:22 [Committee]has anyone tested GTA?
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18:23:06 [bobmcjr3]I think the compatibility list said it crashed the server or something
18:23:25 [Committee]meh
18:23:45 [Committee]did it connect to rockstar social club already?
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18:29:46 [frogzilla]Woohoo
18:29:58 [frogzilla]This always works
18:29:59 [frogzilla]http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23altwfc
18:29:59 [Sacchi]Mibbit.com Webchat client
18:30:11 [frogzilla]I have alot of problems with rizon
18:30:16 [frogzilla]it keeps disconnecting me !!
18:30:25 [einstein|sleep]-!- einstein|sleep is now known as einstein95
18:30:39 [frogzilla]Any ideas why ?
18:31:05 [einstein95]Getting a real IRC client would be a good idea to try out
18:31:28 [frogzilla]are there any portable IRC clients ?
18:31:35 [frogzilla]like runnable exe
18:31:42 [vaguerant]clircDS. :V
18:32:00 [Committee]mirc
18:32:06 [Committee]you can install it as portable
18:32:18 [Committee]it went the way of the winrar, shared forever just reminding you
18:32:29 [frogzilla]hahaha
18:32:34 [einstein95]http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/pchat_portable http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/kvirc_portable
18:32:35 [Sacchi]PChat Portable | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB, portable and cloud drives
18:33:26 [einstein95]http://www.pendriveapps.com/hydrairc-portable-irc-client/ http://www.pendriveapps.com/megairc/ http://www.portablefreeware.com/?sc=75
18:33:26 [Sacchi]HydraIRC – Portable IRC Client | Portable USB Applications
18:33:36 [einstein95]Take your pick
18:33:40 [frogzilla]Woow
18:33:43 [frogzilla]so many options !!
18:33:43 [frogzilla]xD
18:33:46 [Prof9]those aren't kvirc
18:34:03 [Prof9]using clircDS with altwfc is somehow ironic
18:34:11 [frogzilla]Ahahahha
18:34:18 [frogzilla]But still, it makes sense
18:34:30 [frogzilla]You can look for people with the DS, people you wanna match
18:34:33 [frogzilla]reset and play
18:34:45 [einstein95]Prof9: Second link, first line: kvirc
18:34:55 [Prof9]oh whoops
18:35:00 [Prof9]I was looking at Sacchi
18:35:25 [einstein95]bbl
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18:35:59 [frogzilla]Does it cost Nagato alot of money to run the server ??
18:36:26 [Committee]Interesting question, Nagato any plans to setup a donate box?
18:36:55 [frogzilla]Im really not sure how much bandwidth these games take
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18:37:24 [Pipian]I don’t expect it is much
18:37:29 [Pipian]Other than maybe DLC
18:37:40 [frogzilla]Pay to download DLC then ;)
18:37:41 [Pipian]Most of the stuff is tiny status updates
18:37:49 [frogzilla]Nagato should become EA
18:37:59 [Pipian]So it should be pretty dinky when you compare it to, say, normal web traffic
18:38:08 [Committee]http://nintendoeverything.com/more-details-about-the-nintendo-wi-fi-connection-from-former-gamespy-general-manager/
18:38:10 [frogzilla]Yeah, i think so
18:38:13 [Sacchi]More details about the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection from former GameSpy general manager | Nintendo Everything
18:38:19 [frogzilla]Wow, nice post !!!
18:38:37 [Committee]- Awkward silence for a minute; then the two Nintendo sides yelled at each other in Japanese for about 10 minutes while GameSpy just sat there - After that, the translator said, “Okay yes, they understand. Thank you.”
18:38:41 [Committee]this made me lol
18:39:14 [Committee]like a badly dubbed japanese samurai movie
18:39:39 [frogzilla]hahhaha
18:39:45 [frogzilla]Loooool
18:40:30 [frogzilla]You know, I wish a banning feature can be added to the server
18:40:34 [Seru-kun]Well
18:40:41 [frogzilla]Everyone hates hackers/cheaters, we should ban them
18:40:49 [Seru-kun]I'm happy they don't use GameSpy anymore today.
18:41:02 [Pipian]The tricky bit is that, other than banning by console
18:41:04 [Pipian]You can’t do much
18:41:14 [Seru-kun]Online is so much better on 3DS and Wii U
18:41:15 [Pipian]Certainly difficult to detect since it’s all P2P
18:41:21 [frogzilla]Yeah
18:41:29 [frogzilla]It is tough !!
18:42:07 [frogzilla]some games are ruined by cheaters tho
18:42:17 [frogzilla]someway to identify a person, and reject them making connection to the server
18:42:26 [vaguerant]Unless I'm testing, I only ever play against people I know.
18:42:28 [frogzilla]identify them thro their MAC address maybe
18:42:34 [vaguerant]So hacking doesn't affect me at all.
18:42:35 [Pipian]Well
18:42:36 [frogzilla]or home IP address
18:42:48 [frogzilla]so ban entire IP address if they're caught cheating
18:43:02 [Pipian]frogzilla: There’s enough information in the NAS login to ban
18:43:07 [frogzilla]Soon enough tho, cheaters are going to start coming in
18:43:07 [Pipian]That’s what NAS was used for in principle
18:43:19 [Pipian]The problem is actually identifying the cheaters and associating them with their profile-id
18:43:23 [Pipian]If you can find their profile-id
18:43:25 [Pipian]You can ban them
18:43:30 [frogzilla]I see
18:43:35 [frogzilla]Hmmm
18:43:48 [frogzilla]So since its P2P
18:43:52 [frogzilla]theres no evidence of cheating
18:43:54 [Pipian]No
18:43:57 [Pipian]There’s no evidence
18:44:01 [Pipian]It’s all honor system
18:44:07 [vaguerant]Does the server ever see custom emblems in games like Mario Kart, or do they just go peer to peer?
18:44:17 [frogzilla]hmm
18:44:20 [Pipian]I suspect (without evidence) that those are peer to peer
18:44:38 [Pipian]About all the server sees is “This friend-ID is looking for this type of game"
18:44:41 [vaguerant]That's a shame. A giant mosaic of people's custom emblems would be neat.
18:44:51 [frogzilla]Hahaaha
18:44:58 [Pipian]We could theoretically be more advanced than the dumb NWC match-maker
18:45:03 [Pipian]And actually show what people are asking for
18:45:11 [frogzilla]I think the only way
18:45:14 [Prof9]we have the technology
18:45:19 [frogzilla]is to have users who see cheaters, report (with evidence)
18:45:27 [Pipian]i.e. with a little knowledge about how they matchmake, we can do things like say “This many people on Pokemon are asking for trades"
18:45:32 [Pipian]Or even make it accessible via HTTP
18:45:39 [frogzilla]with cheaters name and other ID (like number of wins/loss)
18:45:39 [Pipian]“These friends are online” without having to actually login
18:46:05 [Pipian]Though it’d probably be better to not do that
18:46:08 [frogzilla]admin can then find real ID of person thro their name and info provided by the report
18:46:16 [vaguerant]I was thinking a DS homebrew to read (some future version of) the stats page would be cool.
18:46:21 [Pipian]Because forcing people to log in also guarantees that the other people already online will see you
18:46:33 [Pipian]Which wouldn’t happen with a drive-by HTTP website
18:46:51 [frogzilla]vaguerant, it's only temporary :D, you can always use the beloved DSORganize
18:47:18 [vaguerant]I have a RAM pack, so I could always use the official browser if I really wanted.
18:47:41 [frogzilla]OmG, i just thought about an amazing IDEA
18:47:58 [frogzilla]Basically, its extra programming into the server
18:48:01 [frogzilla]but what happens is
18:48:19 [frogzilla]If you want to join custom server, you need to register your own friendcode and a name (name that you HAVE to use in ur DS)
18:48:35 [frogzilla]when the person wants to connect they have to use only that name (lets say it is ABC)
18:49:09 [frogzilla]once they connect, if they're caught cheating by other people, a report will be made by ABC, admin can check the friendcode of ABC and ban his/her IP address
18:49:20 [Pipian]Well
18:49:22 [Pipian]For one thing
18:49:35 [frogzilla]So in other words, new friendcodes arent handed in for free, each have to be assigned to a person
18:49:45 [Pipian]NAS can’t really check profile ID except indirectly I believe
18:49:54 [Pipian]And it certainly doesn’t know what name you registered as
18:50:00 [Pipian]Although it does know what name you used on your DS
18:50:01 [Pikachu025]you're making this shit way too complicated
18:50:34 [frogzilla]Whats ur hit on this pikachu !
18:51:10 [Pipian]Fundamentally the problem is that there’s no in-game way to report cheaters
18:51:34 [frogzilla](potato video camera?)
18:51:37 [frogzilla]ahahhaha
18:51:57 [vaguerant]How did Nintendo do it, anyway?
18:52:07 [Pikachu025]they didn't
18:52:10 [Pipian]vaguerant: They didn’t, really. At least as far as I know
18:52:10 [frogzilla]They didnt ban (as far as i know)
18:52:12 [vaguerant]Some user reports that "JimmyB" was cheating on Mario Kart DS yesterday.
18:52:14 [Pipian]They could have, but they didn't.
18:52:29 [vaguerant]OK, yeah, because I was going to say, that information is friggin' useless.
18:52:58 [frogzilla]We need some way of 1. Reporting a cheat. 2. Find persons friendcode ID
18:53:01 [frogzilla]How just how !!
18:53:47 [Pipian]The only exception to cheating
18:53:56 [Pipian]Is that you could probably do some game-specific stuff for some games
18:54:23 [Pipian]Like Pokemon GTS could be geared a bit better to filter hacked pokemon put up
18:55:13 [Pipian]But that’s the exception that proves the rule. That only works because they actually have to contact a centralized server for the activity
18:55:20 [Committee]There is something very Freudian about your passion against cheaters...
18:55:50 [frogzilla]Ahh, you can say ..... I HATE THEM!!
18:55:55 [Marusame]im with em, people who cheat in online games are scum
18:56:02 [frogzilla]Seriously, they mess up everything
18:56:14 [Marusame]if you have to cheat in order to win, then you suck and shouldnt be playing at all
18:56:23 [frogzilla]They need to get banned, and now since we have custom servers, we should ban them
18:56:34 [Pipian]Yeah
18:56:39 [Pipian]But unless you can identify them
18:56:40 [Pipian]Nothing you can do
18:57:05 [Pipian]The best you could do is a post-hoc reputation thing
18:57:07 [Marusame]there may be an ocarina code or two that can show that info
18:57:15 [Pipian]Because the server can at least sorta see who you’re connecting to
18:57:17 [Marusame]i think there are codes that show more info online
18:57:28 [Pipian]So you MIGHT be able to log games
18:57:31 [Pipian]In so far as you can say
18:57:37 [Pipian]“Here are the people who you played with last."
18:57:54 [Pipian]But knowledge on that account is limited
18:58:02 [Pipian]I think it works with Pokemon because it’s one on one
18:58:12 [Pipian]So you can see who’s connected to who
18:58:18 [Pipian]Or make some strong inferences
18:58:35 [Marusame]i used a liscense code just to unlock everything in mario kart wii and i think on the ds too but that was it, i wasnt gonna spend forever and a day unlocking stuff just to stay competitive. online games should give you everything
18:58:58 [Pipian]So you could have a website which says
18:59:07 [frogzilla]Ahh
18:59:15 [Pipian]“Here are the people you played with last. GIve a thumbs up if they were good, a thumbs down if they were cheating"
18:59:21 [Committee]Marusame and that is not cheating how?
18:59:50 [Pipian]A sufficient number of thumbs downs to thumbs ups could be used as evidence of cheating to ban
18:59:52 [Pipian]But otherwise
18:59:52 [Marusame]because its just to unlock whats already there, its not enhancing the game any
19:00:04 [frogzilla]We can have super players, (that have tracking routers) and can report players to server admin, they go through games and try to find cheaters, any cheater found they're able to get their ID in real time (through the router log) and report that to server admin
19:00:07 [Committee]but you just "skipped" over what others worked hard for?
19:00:20 [Pipian]frogzilla: That’s too difficult
19:00:27 [frogzilla]super players can change their name offc, so they act like real players
19:00:43 [vaguerant]How much are you going to pay them.
19:00:49 [Pipian]And basically requires developing special versions of the game
19:00:50 [frogzilla]2 dollaa
19:01:06 [frogzilla]No no no no ~~
19:01:23 [frogzilla]They use normal version of the game, just their router logs info, if they find cheater they get cheater IP address and report to nagato
19:01:33 [Committee]frogzilla you have a great idea, however I think you have to understand the scope of what your idea would entail
19:01:34 [Pipian]Yeah
19:01:37 [Pipian]If you were smart though
19:01:41 [Pipian]You could at least do something like
19:01:46 [Pipian]Set up a custom sniffer app
19:01:57 [Pipian]That logged the game-play and reported
19:02:03 [Marusame]its no different then using a cheat to unlock all the characters in ssbb, hell ive had to beat that damn game 3 times cause once i sent in a wii and they erased it. so i beat it again 100%, then i lost that wii cause it was a rental now i have one i beat a 3rd time
19:02:04 [Pipian]But that out-of-band logging will be difficult
19:02:42 [Marusame]even though i worked my ass off getting all the characters and beating Subspace Emissary i have no qualms if anyone just unlocks em though a cheat so they can play as well
19:02:54 [Committee]ah understood
19:03:00 [frogzilla]No, im talking about cheating in online play
19:03:02 [Committee]so its only select cheats you are good with
19:03:16 [frogzilla]Like unlimited items (mario kart) or black koma (jus)
19:03:28 [Pipian]Committee: frogzilla (and many other anti-cheaters) are mostly concerned with cheats that actually affect the enjoyment of others
19:03:34 [Marusame]i think you should have the ability to play as a full roster in online games or else its unfair
19:03:42 [Pipian]Cheating to unlock parts of a game only affects yourself.
19:03:54 [Committee]i dont agree with that
19:03:55 [frogzilla]Yeah exactly, but online cheating is the issue
19:03:58 [Pipian]Cheating to win every MKDS race shits on others
19:03:58 [Committee]take Mario Kart for example
19:04:04 [Marusame]cause when i started before they turned off the wii online i was getting my ass handed to me cause i didnt have all the characters unlocked
19:04:05 [Committee]3ds i mean
19:04:05 [frogzilla]Exactly
19:04:15 [Committee]people grind that game to get the gold parts
19:04:19 [Committee]which could dominate online play
19:04:33 [Committee]so that means its ok to just unlock the gold parts via AR and go online with them?>
19:04:44 [Pipian]Yes, because that at least evens the playing field
19:04:48 [frogzilla]Its still acquirable
19:04:56 [Pipian]Granted that forces an arms race
19:05:02 [Pipian]Where you have to get the gold parts to be competitive
19:05:08 [frogzilla]But cheating like infinite items (non stop) or infinite specials (jus)
19:05:21 [frogzilla]you cant acquire that, other than cheating
19:05:24 [Committee]so those who unlocked the gold parts the hard way, does that mean their efforts are nulled?
19:05:29 [Marusame]its not like im doing it to just use the best character, i just did it so i can have a full roster and be able to choose what track i wanted
19:05:37 [frogzilla]no, they enjoyed the game, took them longer but they got there
19:05:52 [frogzilla]and match making should make it fair, choose similar skilled people
19:05:55 [Committee]I guess what im interested in is, you say you hate cheaters, but you are unwilling to play the game the way its meant to be played
19:06:04 [Pipian]Committee: Not really, because there’s something to be said for defeating your own enjoyment of the game
19:06:09 [Committee]under the idea of "leveling" the playing field
19:06:12 [Marusame]i dont have the time to go through all that, i have nearly 150 xbox 360 games, 320 steam games, and 13 consoles
19:06:16 [Pipian]If you cheat to get the gold parts you’re only harming your own enjoyment
19:06:22 [Pipian]By removing the incentive to try to get them
19:06:37 [Committee]Marusame, which is your choice, not anyone elses
19:06:38 [Marusame]yes i know, but i wasnt enjoying single player
19:06:49 [frogzilla]Committee, I'm not saying cheating to speed up game progress is okay, it just happens (and sucks), but it's still legit progress, what I'm saying is we should stop what we can (and thats match making)
19:06:59 [frogzilla]You can't tell if someone has acquired them legit or not, you never know
19:07:03 [Marusame]i still lost every game i played
19:07:10 [Committee]and what im saying frogzilla is that you have a GREAT IDEA, i love that
19:07:16 [Marusame]not like it gave me an "edge"
19:07:40 [Committee]HOWEVER, if you understood the SCOPE of what that idea would entail i guarantee you would change your view on how it can be done
19:07:43 [Prof9]why would you dictate how people want to play the game
19:07:48 [Prof9]that's a huge can of worms right there
19:07:52 [frogzilla]I really have no idea about the scope !!
19:07:53 [Committee]exactly
19:07:57 [Marusame]on top of that everyone had to erase their games
19:08:05 [Pipian]I mean, the flip side of the golden parts thing is
19:08:20 [Pipian]Suppose you banned those who cheated in getting those
19:08:45 [Marusame]i dont know what the golden parts are, i just know it unlocks 3 extra bikes and 3 extra quads and the rest of the characters
19:08:48 [Pipian]Is it unfair to give the people who already are doing better (by having spent time and effort in getting them) yet another advantage over people who were unable to?
19:09:39 [Marusame]i think mario kart should of unlocked everything for multiplayer from the get go
19:09:53 [Marusame]they did that for street fighter 4, you had to unlock all the characters
19:09:57 [Committee]then that leaves only multiplayer viable
19:10:15 [Marusame]then in super street fighter 4 they just unlocked em by default cause it was a pain in the ass to have a full roster
19:10:46 [frogzilla]Online match making should cover that marusame, it should match make people with same game progress
19:11:31 [Pipian]Well
19:11:34 [Pipian]That would be the ideal
19:11:37 [Committee]like ELOE system in chess?
19:11:48 [Committee]or the match making in LoL?
19:11:49 [Pipian]But that’s a bit hampered by the fact that the games aren’t designed to reveal much to the serner
19:12:00 [Pipian]Unless they’ve already been designed to do that sort of ranking
19:12:13 [Pipian]You can’t retroactively fix that
19:12:24 [frogzilla]Exactly man :(
19:12:24 [Marusame]i say unlocking a roster is perfectly legit, every person i faced had the entire roster anyway
19:12:28 [frogzilla]sadly, nintendo didnt think of that
19:13:09 [frogzilla]They dont even match make by ammount of wins/losses
19:13:15 [Marusame]whats cheating is using something you cant do by skill in an online game that gives you an advantage
19:13:16 [vaguerant]What kind of weird platform are you on anyway, Pipian? It's weirding me out that you're using curly apostrophes.
19:13:32 [Pipian]Colloquy, OS X
19:13:37 [vaguerant]Ahhhhh, gotcha.
19:14:00 [Marusame]i run windows 7 on a mac pro 2008 :P
19:14:47 [Marusame]and my laptop is windows 8 and ubuntu linux so i have many flavors
19:16:34 [Marusame]hmm i wonder how ssbb is going to work? what if people wanted to play brawl Minus or project M
19:17:05 [Pipian]Well in theory
19:17:10 [Pipian]Now that we control the servers
19:17:21 [Pipian]We could create custom game-ids for those variants
19:17:42 [Pipian]But that would also require fixing the game to report those game-ids to the server
19:17:58 [Pipian]!stat
19:17:58 [Sacchi]'mprimeds', 'lozphourds', 'smashbrosxwii', 'acrossingwii'
19:18:08 [frogzilla]!stat
19:18:08 [Sacchi]'mprimeds', 'lozphourds', 'smashbrosxwii', 'acrossingwii'
19:18:11 [frogzilla]ioooo
19:18:17 [Pipian]Instead of reporting smashbrosxwii maybe smashbrosminus or smashbrosm
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19:24:19 [frogzilla]I think its amazing how the custom server works !!
19:24:22 [frogzilla]Too good
19:25:24 [Prof9]!stat balls
19:25:24 [Sacchi]No one is using a game like "balls"
19:25:33 [Prof9]oh no, it doesn't work anymore?
19:25:46 [vaguerant]It only reports games people are currently playing.
19:26:02 [vaguerant]Nobody's playing anything with balls in the name right now, but if someone was it'd work.
19:26:11 [Prof9]!stat meds
19:26:11 [Sacchi]mprimeds has 1 player.
19:27:28 [vaguerant]Possibilities: 8ballstarsds, MLBallstarsds, unbballswii.
19:27:54 [vaguerant]A pool/billiards game, a baseball game, and whatever "Unbelievaballs" is on Wii.
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19:28:53 [bobmcjr]!stat
19:28:53 [Sacchi]'mprimeds', 'lozphourds', 'mariokartds', 'smashbrosxwii'
19:29:04 [vaguerant]Actually, I can't find any evidence of a game on Wii called that, so it might be another orphan.
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19:30:12 [bobmcjr]!stat \v\f"\x\t);
19:30:12 [Sacchi]No one is using a game like "\v\f"\x\t);"
19:30:15 [bobmcjr]aww
19:31:37 [vaguerant]I've been collecting the weird cases out of interest. contrads, figlandds, hobbitds, mariopartyds, nameneverds, noahprods, simsportsds, soccerjamds.
19:32:06 [vaguerant]These games all either don't exist or don't have any wifi functionality in their released versions (Contra, Mario Party).
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19:32:41 [vaguerant]Apparently there was going to be a "MySims Sports", but that's not an entry in the series that ever happened.
19:33:02 [vaguerant]Got far enough to have a server built though.
19:33:38 [vaguerant]Or at least assigned.
19:35:11 [Prof9]I don't think they have entire servers for a single games
19:35:13 [Prof9]gamE*
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19:35:24 [vaguerant]Right, I'm misusing "server" horribly.
19:36:03 [vaguerant]I can't think of a better word for ... single-game-connectivity-units-on-a-shared-server.
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19:44:25 [Team_Fail]o/
19:45:26 [Committee]Adios Mi Patria Adorada
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19:50:31 [Marusame]sounds like a virtual server environment
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20:04:49 [vaguerant]!stat lux
20:04:49 [Sacchi]No one is using a game like "lux"
20:05:03 [vaguerant]Hmm.
20:06:08 [bobmcjr]!stat
20:06:08 [Sacchi]'mprimeds', 'smashbrosxwii', 'tetrisdeluxds'
20:08:06 [einstein95]!stat lux
20:08:06 [Sacchi]tetrisdeluxds has 1 player.
20:09:46 [bobmcjr]!stat x
20:09:46 [Sacchi]Choose one: 'smashbrosxwii', 'tetrisdeluxds'
20:09:51 [bobmcjr]!stat w
20:09:51 [Sacchi]Choose one: 'smashbrosxwii', 'tetrisdeluxds'
20:09:59 [bobmcjr]?
20:10:25 [bobmcjr]einstein95: Where is the w in tetrisdeluxds
20:10:33 [bobmcjr]!stat wi
20:10:33 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 1 player.
20:10:49 [einstein95]bobmcjr: Not my script :v
20:11:23 [bobmcjr]ah. And sadly I can't seem to break this one
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20:11:41 [vaguerant]Server only seems to report Tetris Party Deluxe while you're actively in the search phase.
20:11:56 [bobmcjr]!stat w
20:11:56 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 1 player.
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20:18:17 [vaguerant]I guess Tetris Party Deluxe is sorta worth having even if you already have Tetris. It has Bombliss at least, I don't think Nintendo's had that, did it?
20:18:30 [vaguerant]*already have Tetris DS
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20:20:06 [Nagato]vaguerant, it only shows people searching for a game
20:20:10 [Nagato]it won't show people simplly logged in
20:20:19 [Nagato]it's easy to add that, though, i guess
20:20:41 [vaguerant]Is that true of all games, or TPD specifically?
20:20:46 [Nagato]all games
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20:20:57 [Nagato]if the "maxplayers" field is <= 0 then it won't show up on the list
20:21:12 [Nagato]and "maxplayers" will be > 0 if you are actually searching for a game
20:21:24 [nyn]ehi guys
20:21:34 [nyn]there's anyone?
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20:22:37 [nyn]ehi
20:22:55 [nyn]really.....there's any1?
20:23:02 [vaguerant]!stat bom
20:23:02 [Sacchi]bomberman20ds has 1 player.
20:23:07 [vaguerant]Yeah, there's a few people about.
20:23:21 [vaguerant]I'm just sitting on the main WFC menu for Bomberman.
20:23:34 [nyn]well...hallelujah :)
20:23:34 [Prof9]hm Sacchi doesn't respond to VERSION?
20:23:48 [nyn]but the alternative servers works?
20:23:48 [vaguerant]With like "Friend Battle", "Bomber Dojo" (non-friend), "Update Ranking" (leaderboard shit) and "Options".
20:23:54 [Prof9]that's a rule on Rizon
20:23:58 [Nagato]i'm looking at the code now, and for some reason i'm not seeing where i put the maxplayers stuff at :?
20:24:07 [Prof9]ctrl+f
20:24:26 [Nagato]i could've swore i put that code in there, anyway... oh well
20:25:04 [Nagato]it's just getting every server from the server list now then
20:25:33 [Nagato](and you don't have to be searching for a game to be added to the server list)
20:25:51 [Nagato](the heartbeat sends the information about the client's state which is what we use)
20:26:05 [vaguerant]Which brings us back to it being weird that Tetris Party Deluxe doesn't seem to be added until you're in search phase. :p
20:26:17 [Nagato]then that's entirely on the game
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20:26:26 [Prof9]I'm rolling out WfcReplay v0.5
20:26:27 [Prof9]https://github.com/Prof9/wfcreplay/releases
20:26:35 [Prof9]Pokémon should now work
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20:26:51 [Prof9]this will probably be the last release for a while unless any bugs are found
20:26:51 [vaguerant]Nice job, that should be popular.
20:29:23 [vaguerant]Oof, that is a nice option.
20:29:43 [vaguerant]Once you've created your profile in TPD, the next startup has two options on the title screen.
20:29:59 [vaguerant]"Start Game" and "Play Tetris!"
20:30:07 [vaguerant]The former takes you into the full menu system.
20:30:21 [vaguerant]The latter just kicks you right into a normal game with default rules.
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20:30:33 [vaguerant]Pretty smooth.
20:31:20 [Nagato]Prof9, d(゜-^*) hopefully this solves most of our issues then
20:31:52 [Nagato]we can probably make a guide on how to use this with desmume and flashcarts, and also how to make it work with a real ARDS
20:31:57 [Nagato]and then get rid of the current patcher tool
20:32:05 [Nagato]since that breaks on a number of things
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20:34:47 [Prof9]eh, I'd keep the manual tool around for edge cases
20:34:58 [Prof9]like flashcards with shitty AP patching
20:35:07 [Prof9]and prepatched ROMs
20:35:36 [Prof9]are you sure you want to officially support DeSmuME? lol
20:36:12 [Prof9]I haven't tried HeartGold and SoulSilver but hopefully they work
20:36:33 [Nagato]probably not :V
20:36:36 [Nagato](support desmume)
20:41:49 [Prof9]I'll put the ARDS thing above the ROM patch thing in the wiki
20:41:58 [Prof9]and add it's the most reliable
20:42:02 [vaguerant]Yay.
20:45:03 [bobmcjr2]!stat smash
20:45:03 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 2 players.
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20:48:53 [SrDragoon]Ahh, Committee already left.. DQ9's DQVC works, interestingly enough it does not make a call to SE's server at all, but it does a few download calls...
20:49:03 [bobmcjr2]Smash bros anyone?
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20:49:41 [vaguerant]From where?
20:49:49 [vaguerant]@SrDragoon
20:49:57 [SrDragoon]it only uses NAS for everything
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20:50:09 [vaguerant]Huh, nice.
20:50:21 [mib785]Whats nice :D
20:50:24 [SrDragoon]which puzzled me in the beginning because I kept wondering how altwfc was making it work
20:51:06 [bobmcjr2]!stat
20:51:06 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii'
20:51:09 [Pikachu025]btw if it helps
20:51:16 [Pikachu025]https://www.mediafire.com/?7fdd1197f02jitc
20:51:17 [Sacchi]YDQE
20:51:51 [Pikachu025]i somehow ended up with two different DLC sets while I was downloading stuff from DLS1, might help with figuring out the format
20:52:40 [SrDragoon]oh I didn't see that in the gamecd list in the source.. Maybe I had an older copy
20:53:45 [Prof9]v0.5 codes should be good enough to start building a database I think
20:53:58 [Prof9]so people don't need ROMs
20:54:42 [bobmcjr2]Although considering AR's don't even work on 3ds' anymore
20:54:59 [einstein95]bobmcjr2: Flashcard + NitroHax :V
20:55:01 [vaguerant]I thought the DSi Action Replay worked.
20:55:15 [Prof9]you can't use NitroHax on a 3DS
20:55:19 [bobmcjr2]Yep
20:55:31 [Prof9]the 3DS cuts power to slot-1 when a game cart is removed
20:55:37 [Prof9]so you can't swap it out
20:55:41 [vaguerant]Oh, nice.
20:55:51 [vaguerant]I mean, it sucks, but it's a good idea.
20:55:56 [vaguerant]Nice for them.
20:56:03 [bobmcjr2]The last action replay update was for 6.X,and i guarantee ninty blocked it since
20:56:07 [Prof9]iirc anyway
20:56:10 [einstein95]Yeah, that's why WooD DUmper doesn't work
20:56:31 [Prof9]really? I saw a comment in a news post about 7.0 saying ARDSi worked
20:56:36 [bobmcjr2]Hmm
20:57:03 [bobmcjr2]The last firmware i saw on codejunkies was for 6.x
20:57:35 [Prof9]well if it ain't broken
20:57:57 [einstein95]http://uk.codejunkies.com/support/article.aspx?article_id=453
20:57:58 [Sacchi]Knowledgebase - Codejunkies
20:58:24 [bobmcjr2]Yeah thats what i saw
21:01:40 [bobmcjr2]!stat
21:01:40 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii'
21:01:47 [bobmcjr2]!stat ash
21:01:47 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 2 players.
21:02:00 [einstein95]!stat brawl
21:02:00 [Sacchi]No one is using a game like "brawl"
21:03:16 [Prof9]so what does DWC stand for anyway?
21:03:19 [Prof9]DNS Wi-Fi Connection?
21:04:00 [einstein95]Apparently Gamespy never knew, so I dunno
21:04:27 [mib785]its great that Nintendo WFC allows you to just change the DNS IP address
21:04:28 [mib785]hahahha
21:05:16 [Prof9]einstein95: wait, what?
21:05:50 [einstein95]http://docs.poweredbygamespy.com/wiki/How_does_GameSpy_support_the_Nintendo_Wii_%26_DS%3F
21:05:51 [vaguerant]I was going to guess "DS Wi-Fi Connection".
21:05:51 [Sacchi]How does GameSpy support the Nintendo Wii & DS? - Powered by GameSpy Wiki
21:05:58 [vaguerant]Since that's what it was first.
21:06:03 [mib785]I have a question
21:06:18 [mib785]How many users does this server really support, until it starts lagging
21:06:27 [einstein95]Nagato: http://www.poweredbygamespy.com/2009/07/17/guinness-world-records-iphone/ "Guinness World Records began its life as a videogame on the Nintendo DS platform, where the developer used GameSpy’s Sake cloud data storage technology (a standard part of the Nintendo DWC online services library) to power its record keeping."
21:06:28 [Sacchi]Guinness World Records (iPhone) | GameSpy Technology
21:06:35 [Prof9]hah
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21:21:36 [Team_Fail]heyoo
21:21:41 [Team_Fail]now that i'm home
21:25:18 [bobmcjr2]Brawl?
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21:26:50 [mib785]Jump stars anyone
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21:31:15 [Marusame]!stat
21:31:15 [Sacchi]'mprimeds', 'smashbrosxwii'
21:31:25 [mib785]What is wimmfii ?
21:31:28 [mib785]i hear it alot
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21:31:48 [Gerisk]hi
21:32:55 [einstein95]mib785: Another alternate WFC service
21:33:03 [mib785]for even DS
21:33:03 [mib785]?
21:33:25 [bobmcjr2]Yeah, but it's more closed and apparently altwfc handles brawl better
21:34:07 [mib785]o.o
21:34:13 [mib785]altwfc FTW, im loving it
21:34:18 [Marusame]so brawl isnt a lagfest of laggy laggedness mclagenstien the IVth?
21:34:20 [mib785]so reliable
21:34:26 [mib785]ahahhahahahahhaha
21:34:30 [Team_Fail]lmao
21:35:01 [mib785]Sadly nintendo couldn't even handle brawl (from what i heard)
21:35:03 [mib785]lazy buggers
21:35:34 [bobmcjr2]Altwfc handles brawl better in that you don't disconnect as randomly and often
21:35:36 [Gerisk]I have one question, is it possible to play rock band 3 on private servers?
21:35:45 [Marusame]only truly online game on a nintendo product that just worked that i played was AC3 i bought for my wii u cause i desperiatly needed a reason to turn it on.
21:35:47 [bobmcjr2]And the actual brawl matches are P2P anyway
21:36:02 [mib785]Oh sorry xD
21:36:15 [mib785]This might be abit of a crazy thing to recommend
21:36:27 [mib785]but could the match making process be sped up (by modifying the server)
21:36:30 [Marusame]ac3 actually worked online on wii u, flawlessly no lag
21:37:14 [Marusame]im like whoa... they did it. now i have higher hopes for smash bros wii u, and mario kart 8
21:38:00 [bobmcjr2]I wonder if those will be infrastructure based...
21:38:33 [Marusame]i used the PID tool, when its done does that mean my old friend code will be applied to the private server so i dont have to delete my save?
21:38:49 [bobmcjr2]Thats not our tool (?)
21:39:22 [vaguerant]Yeah, that's Wiimmfi stuff, not related to altwfc.
21:39:41 [Marusame]thats odd so where does THAT connect to?
21:39:43 [Team_Fail]ooooh
21:39:44 [Team_Fail]i wonder
21:39:55 [Team_Fail]can the server deliver rockband and guitar hero content?
21:40:16 [bobmcjr2]The dlc should still be wii shop channel based
21:40:23 [einstein95]^
21:40:44 [Marusame]http://forum.wii-homebrew.com/board42-kreativitaet/mkw-server-project-english/51831-wiipid-extractor/?s=26149626d67fc5e6cacfa74cb86983fb7ef80d4f
21:40:49 [Sacchi]Wiipid extractor - MKW-Server Project (English) - Wii-Homebrew.com Forum
21:41:02 [Team_Fail]i know some of it was pulled a while back, and in them doing so, blocked off some of the awards you can get, then again, you can always just pirate them and install them with a WAD manager
21:41:03 [Marusame]so thats a different thing entrely?
21:41:25 [einstein95]Yeah
21:41:29 [Marusame]i wish installing wads was easier and less risky
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21:41:39 [bobmcjr2]How is it risky?
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21:42:18 [Marusame]i actually bought kirby, link to the past, and paper mario but had to return the wii i had since it was a rent a center thing since no one could get one
21:42:35 [einstein95]Heading to school, back later
21:42:42 [Marusame]but when i unlinked it and relinked my account i found that nintendo forgot to put in a way to redownload the shit you bought
21:42:42 [gamerkid522]hello
21:42:58 [bobmcjr2]There is no account
21:43:09 [bobmcjr2]For wii shop purchases
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21:43:27 [Marusame]i linked my nintendo coin thing account which still shows i have bought those games
21:43:44 [Marusame]you can link an account to the wii
21:43:49 [bobmcjr2]And that is all it does :P
21:43:58 [bobmcjr2]Coins/stars, and nothing more
21:44:07 [einstein95]It's not like the 3DS or Wii U
21:44:17 [Marusame]ya cause they got alot of shit for it
21:44:28 [bobmcjr2]3ds and wii u are still pretty bad
21:44:32 [bobmcjr2]In that regard
21:44:41 [Marusame]so any wii purchase is regarded as a one time use to me
21:44:57 [bobmcjr2]Or yknow, use yabdm and back the wads up
21:44:57 [Marusame]ya i have a ps3 and 360 as well, hell even the original xbox did it better :P
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21:45:38 [Marusame]too late now, the console was never hacked and was returned and that was years and years ago
21:45:59 [Marusame]when you still couldnt find a wii in stores
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21:47:02 [msoucy]Greetings
21:47:20 [Marusame]well i found out about priiloader which is easier ot use and install than mii2 thingy, and was able to unlock locked saves
21:47:40 [bobmcjr2]Still, what is risky about installing wads?
21:48:11 [Marusame]idk the process i found made it seem like you are ripping the system software then using that copy to play from and other things
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21:49:09 [mib785]bobmcjr2, ur famous
21:49:22 [msoucy]Is polaris- or one of the other developers available?
21:49:31 [mib785]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbXKErKWK-4 (at 9:00)
21:49:31 [Sacchi]Mario Kart Wii Online (after shutdown) :: 30:52 :: Unrated :: 14 Views :: 0 Ratings
21:49:50 [mib785]at (9:00)
21:50:09 [Marusame]hey thats my video >.<
21:50:16 [mib785]O.O
21:50:22 [mib785]Wow, shit I didnt EVEN NOTICE
21:50:27 [mib785]epic vid
21:50:33 [bobmcjr2]Wonderful..
21:50:33 [msoucy]I'd like to discuss the Pythonic conversion...
21:50:42 [Nagato]msoucy, i'm polaris-
21:50:51 [msoucy]aah, alright, thanks
21:51:05 [Team_Fail]uggh. someone hacked the forum
21:51:07 [msoucy]is it fine to talk implementation details in this channel or would you prefer PM?
21:51:14 [mib785]what recorded are you using marumsame ?
21:51:14 [Team_Fail]i can't post, make a thread, or log into my control panels
21:51:19 [Nagato]come to the dev channel (check the topic)
21:51:53 [Prof9]hacked the forum? haha what
21:51:57 [msoucy]aah, sorry - I didn't see the scoll thing for the topic
21:51:59 [msoucy]thank you
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21:53:03 [Marusame]my youtube account is over 7 years old :P
21:53:40 [Marusame]Joined Jun 22, 2006 dang, makes me feel old
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21:55:04 [EthanObi]Hey.
21:55:17 [EthanObi]I'm having trouble making a GCT file out of the ocarina code, Any help?
21:55:45 [Prof9]maybe we should upload some pre-made GCT files
21:56:12 [EthanObi]I tried using the online gct maker but it says invalid code..
21:56:22 [bobmcjr2]What usbloader are you using?
21:56:29 [EthanObi]USBLoader GX
21:57:26 [bobmcjr2]Download the premade code txt file for what game you want in GX, add the nossl one at the bottom, and go to ocarina in GX for the game and click create
21:57:42 [EthanObi]Okay
21:57:43 [Marusame]im using the CFG loader, i was going to install GX for the wads but it wants me to install yet another series of cios files
21:58:18 [bobmcjr2]You can edit the config for gx to use the ones you habe
21:58:21 [bobmcjr2]Have
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21:59:04 [Marusame]i think its 248 249 and even though i have a degree in computers and networking.. all the cios stuff baffles me
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22:02:03 [bobmcjr2]!stat
22:02:03 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii'
22:02:09 [bobmcjr2]!stat x
22:02:09 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 1 player.
22:02:20 [Marusame]was following this guide http://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-softmod-a-wii-and-play-backup-wii-gamecube-and-wiiware-games.360687/ but a ways in i found all the installers to be in french and didnt want to try and fix what wasnt broken
22:02:22 [Sacchi]How to SoftMod a Wii and play backup Wii, Gamecube and Wiiware Games | GBAtemp.net -> The Independent Video Game Community: 3DS, Gateway 3DS, NDS and R4, Wii, PSP, PS4, Xbox One and all the gaming universe
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22:03:35 [Marusame]guess ill have to delete my smash bros save in order to play online, i can use a cheat to unlock the characters just fine (or spend 3 hours fighting against a 2nd controller and get like 400 matches :/ ) but Subspace emisarry will still have to be rebeat
22:04:07 [bobmcjr2]Theres another slightly more complicated way to save your data and still play online
22:04:23 [Marusame]im all for it for smash bros. too many hours into it
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22:04:39 [Naughx]your online friend code is stored in net0
22:04:55 [bobmcjr2]Fill net0/net1 with 0xFF
22:04:56 [mib785]!stat
22:04:56 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii'
22:05:17 [bobmcjr2]Don't delete them, just replace every byte with 0xFF
22:05:32 [Naughx]0xFF or 0x00
22:06:02 [Marusame]ehh i have no idea what you mean, im assuming a hex editor or something but what where how i still dont know
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22:06:26 [Naughx]yes maru
22:06:48 [Naughx]Or I could do it for you.
22:06:58 [Naughx]Just give me your save file. :D
22:07:18 [Marusame]actually i did copy my save over cause i unlocked locked files
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22:08:09 [bobmcjr2]Hmm Wolf is spazzing out on brawl
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22:09:52 [Prof9]as long as it breaks the checksum
22:10:00 [bboy_]hello
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22:10:26 [bboy_]>looking for help with wii polaris server
22:10:36 [Marusame]now if i can find it on the sd card
22:10:52 [Marusame]ah under private
22:11:12 [Naughx]@Prof9, the crc32 checksum is at the end of the file.
22:11:25 [bboy_]i was able to connect to the server with tatsunoko vs capcom. we can connect, but no matches are connecting
22:11:38 [bobmcjr2]Is anyone else playing?
22:12:30 [bboy_]i was in chat with another player and we were both searching free battle, but no match was made
22:12:44 [mib785]!stat
22:12:45 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii', 'mariokartwii'
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22:13:09 [Marusame]i think this is my smash bros save https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XLbX5skDLMOGlhQVNXNzRWZWc/edit?usp=sharing
22:13:10 [Sacchi]data.bin - Google Drive
22:13:49 [bobmcjr2]Use dolphin to unpack and repack it unless you already have tachtig/twintig set up
22:14:52 [Marusame]i dont know what the tachtig is
22:15:04 [Naughx]I never was able to repack with dolphin.
22:15:21 [bobmcjr2]It's gotten better
22:15:22 [Naughx]Well. A working save
22:15:36 [Marusame]i do have dolphin but i dont use it often, even with a 4870, 16 gigs of ram, and a quard core 2.66 processor the games dont run to well
22:15:44 [bobmcjr2]Btw, i ported Tachtig/Twintig to java. That was fun..
22:15:57 [bboy_]yikes @ maru
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22:16:15 [FleshVortex]figures, I accidentally delete my mkds rom, and try to patch a new one....white screens galore
22:16:27 [Prof9]AR codes are better
22:16:47 [bobmcjr2]Xdelta is best
22:16:57 [Prof9]nonsense
22:17:01 [Prof9]you wanna fight over it?
22:17:11 [bobmcjr2]Yes.
22:17:20 [Naughx]Dolphin includes the md5-blanker, sd-iv and sd-key in its source code.
22:17:35 [bobmcjr2]Yep
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22:21:08 [Marusame]damn dont have the iso, ill rip it, transfer it over to the pc and do that business so ic an load smash bros unless i dont need the iso to pack a save
22:21:28 [bobmcjr2]You dont
22:21:42 [bobmcjr2]Ah heck. Give me a moment and ill fix your save
22:22:36 [Team_Fail]i should dl mkwii and patch it and play it sometime
22:22:41 [Team_Fail]i never did actually get that game
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22:22:51 [Prof9]you should buy it
22:23:03 [Team_Fail]probably when i can afford it
22:23:09 [Team_Fail]or else borrow the disc and rip it lol
22:23:16 [Team_Fail]or buy it and rip it
22:23:19 [Team_Fail]or something like that
22:23:25 [Team_Fail]if target ever has it on sale that'd be cool
22:23:32 [Marusame]ya, its a large file, so be prepared for that
22:23:41 [Team_Fail]i have a 3TB hard drive
22:23:44 [Team_Fail]i'm not worried in the least
22:24:11 [Marusame]ah, ive tried a few times burning it to dvd and it never works and no program on the wii ive found was able to play it
22:24:38 [Team_Fail]i have some USB loaders that work nicely
22:26:26 [Team_Fail]and i've backed up pretty much all my games at the moment
22:26:31 [FleshVortex]meh, Days of Ruin, I get that war is supposed to be bland & depressing, but it just felt so odd compared to prev games
22:26:41 [bobmcjr]Marusame: https://anonfiles.com/file/8495822a14a69b9c89817fc5ddd60c54
22:27:47 [Marusame]weird uploader heh
22:28:08 [Naughx]Funny how SSBB save file doesn't have many checksums.
22:28:26 [bobmcjr2]SmashStack
22:28:36 [Marusame]well i guess they figured since its treated as a locked file the rest of it they didnt need to be secure about
22:29:43 [bobmcjr2]Hooray, i got my old save with my new wifi data set up
22:30:35 [bobmcjr2]Genosync, brawl?
22:30:36 [Prof9]checksum isn't just used to prevent data tampering
22:31:47 [bobmcjr2]My WWDIY showcase modifier doesn't fix the checksums, but the game doesn't truly delete anything (although it says it will)
22:32:12 [bobmcjr2]Can't figure out those checksums for the life of me
22:33:39 [FleshVortex]yep was patching with the wrong method
22:34:42 [Marusame]hmm its saying the wfc data is corrupt delete and create a new one?
22:34:48 [bobmcjr2]Yes
22:34:50 [Marusame]im assuming yes
22:35:13 [Marusame]so this is just a purposely corrupting that part so it forces a new wfc?
22:35:29 [Naughx]Yes
22:35:33 [Marusame]hmm neat
22:35:49 [Marusame]though youd of thought they would of included an option like the ds to just.. idk.. do that yourself?
22:36:33 [Marusame]yay i connected
22:36:59 [Naughx]:D
22:37:21 [Team_Fail]bobmcjr: It's now possible to keep saves while resetting wfc data now?
22:37:28 [bobmcjr2]Yes
22:37:42 [bobmcjr2]For brawl at least
22:37:43 [Team_Fail]i'll have to see what data i have on my wii i can convert
22:37:45 [Team_Fail]ah
22:38:02 [bobmcjr2]If it uses net1/net0 files then yes
22:38:14 [Team_Fail]and how would i know what it uses?
22:38:31 [bobmcjr2]Savegamemanagergx
22:38:47 [Team_Fail]ah
22:38:50 [Naughx]In mario kart wii it is way harder since it store the friend code in the same place than the game save data
22:39:43 [Naughx]rksys.dat
22:42:27 [Marusame]!stat
22:42:27 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii'
22:42:35 [bobmcjr2]I quit
22:43:08 [mib785]!stat
22:43:08 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii'
22:43:49 [Marusame]!stat smashbrosxwii
22:43:49 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 2 players.
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22:46:28 [helpme]hello
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22:49:18 [Marusame]i recorded that last match
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22:51:27 [bobmcjr2]Im on again
22:51:44 [helpme]hello bob
22:51:51 [Marusame]oh, im gonna try to get usb loader gx going
22:52:16 [Marusame]will installing more cios stuff mess with things?
22:52:27 [bobmcjr2]Probably not
22:53:04 [helpme]hey bob do you remember from yesterday? do i need anything else other than DS phat/lite/i and a action replay along with WfcReplay v0.5
22:53:26 [helpme]for retail card to connect?
22:54:18 [einstein95]Nope, that should be it
22:54:37 [bobmcjr2]No. But keep in mind that if it's a dsi, you need an action replay dsi
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23:00:34 [helpme]i got a dslite
23:02:14 [helpme]for instance will this one work http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ACTION-REPLAY-FOR-3DS-DSi-XL-DS-LITE-POKEMON-BLACK-WHITE-CHEATS-NINTENDO-3D-NEW-/110822909134
23:02:16 [Sacchi]Action Replay FOR 3DS DSI XL DS Lite Pokemon Black White Cheats Nintendo 3D NEW | eBay
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23:02:59 [helpme]says on the box image all ds
23:04:52 [bobmcjr2]Dslite works with everything
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23:06:20 [mib785]DS lite owns
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23:15:03 [Marusame]is there a CFG loader wad? hmm itd be nice if i had a wii menu quicklink of it
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23:18:51 [mib785]i cant seem to get mkds to work
23:19:07 [mib785]using AR code for nossl
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23:26:04 [Marusame]dammit none of the usb loaders besides cfg can seem to load the no ssl code right
23:26:45 [BarronWaffles]GX loads it fine
23:26:49 [BarronWaffles]Use a txt code
23:27:04 [Marusame]i am hmm maybe its reading the wrong text file
23:27:24 [Marusame]cause the ocarina menu for the text codes shows some blank named ones
23:27:41 [BarronWaffles]Ah
23:27:42 [Marusame]and i already made a gct with teh codes which it doesnt seem to load
23:27:50 [BarronWaffles]I'll grab my SD card and pastebin an example
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23:28:28 [FleshVortex]that fail when a 3DS can detect a wifi hotspot, but the Wii can't
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23:29:10 [BarronWaffles]http://pastebin.com/qCS4xtEq
23:29:10 [Sacchi]example - R7FEGD.txt - Pastebin.com
23:29:28 [BarronWaffles]SD:\txtcodes\
23:30:08 [Marusame]ya thats how mine is set up for the most part
23:30:47 [Marusame]im just gonna make sure the first option is the wii online code this time
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23:32:35 [Marusame]i guess it needed the brackets
23:33:45 [Marusame]yay connected
23:33:47 [BarronWaffles]Yeah
23:33:52 [BarronWaffles]Cool
23:35:39 [Marusame]wiiflow is pretty cool
23:36:49 [BarronWaffles]A text mode USB loader would be nice
23:37:34 [Marusame]you mean like starting up the wii and maybe with something like priiloader just jump to a text screen of all the hdd games?
23:38:29 [BarronWaffles]Yeah, a USB loader with a text interface
23:39:18 [Marusame]i find it hilarious that the usb hdd im using is an old 20 gig xbox 360 hdd with the transfer cable
23:39:34 [BarronWaffles]That's pretty baller.
23:40:06 [Marusame]thinking of just turning my 120 gig into a wii thing
23:41:37 [Marusame]got it working with wiiflow too now
23:41:44 [Marusame]so i got the no ssl working with 3 usb loaders
23:44:23 [Naughx]I use an emunand for savegames with wiiflow
23:47:17 [Marusame]actualy itd be better if i sold my 120 and just bought like a 500 gig external drive
23:47:32 [Marusame]though one cool thing about the xbox 360 drive is they run off usb power
23:52:26 [Genosync]Anyone here know how to get my PID data over to this server?
23:52:32 [Genosync]So I don't have to delete my Brawl save on a different wii?
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23:59:08 [bobmcjr3]genosync: you can wipe the wfC data while keeping the rest intact
23:59:55 [Genosync]I'm trying to find solutions for the community because most are boo-hooing about their saves
23:59:59 [Genosync]and this being so hard to switch and wah wah